Honda Today vs Yamaha Jog CV50A?

**Isla** · 21st July 2006, 18:21

Hi there, am looking into buying a Honda Today but my father doubts its capability of going up Wellington hills. I'm not able to test drive it as I have never driven a scooter before and being 20kgs lighter than my father am not entirely convinced that he would get the same results as I would given he decided to test drive it against a 100km headwind today. hmmm. Basically is theree anyone here that can give me an idea of this bikes top speed on the flat with a 60kg driver. Should I go for this, coz I love the look of the bike or bite the bullet and buy the more practical bike? (the yamaha jog)

**Mr. Peanut** · 21st July 2006, 18:33

Honda Todays are four-strokes, and are slower. Get the Jog, it's a two stroke and should keep you entertained far longer than the today (Dreadfully slow)

Top speed would be about 45 - 50km/h

**Isla** · 22nd July 2006, 18:46

thanks alot, dad's test drivin the yamaha tomorrow

**msm** · 23rd July 2006, 21:37

I have a Yamaha Aprio Jog, it does the job quite well and reaches about 55kph on the flat, and I got up steep Dunedin hills at around 45kph. I weigh about 75kg fully geared up, plus whatever stuff I'm carrying with me (generally quite a lot). Though my scooter is in need of a bit of work after doing about 5200k, and I could probably get it to go a bit faster after a proper workup.

For the record, I'd never ridden a scooter or motorbike before taking the Aprio Jog on a test ride, though I was able to ride it in a private carpark well out of traffic. I even did a wheelie on my first ride.. unintentional, but hey, if I can do it, anyone can. The fast acceleration has been a life saver on several occasions. A coworker has a four stroke, and man that thing is slow to get going.

**nadroj** · 23rd July 2006, 21:50

I bought a jog for the son last year & I'm occasionally allowed on it. With the restricter right out it hauls ass with 90+kg so I filed it out to 15mm & left it in till he's past being a hoon. He gets it out when he passes his restricted which won't be far away. The jog is made in Japan & it shows in the quality especially compared to some of the chink brands of the same age.

**danjulz** · 7th June 2008, 10:15

Originally Posted by Fumeux

Honda Todays are four-strokes, and are slower. Get the Jog, it's a two stroke and should keep you entertained far longer than the today (Dreadfully slow)

Top speed would be about 45 - 50km/h

Actually the top speed of the Today is 57 kph (i'm 63 kg but friends are more and they get simular results)

**tgb_novice** · 7th June 2008, 13:14

I sincerely advise that you try a TGB 101S, Its a two stroke, and will haul you through the hills like no other can !! I have tried a few scooters, here and overseas and man does this go

.

The drawback, it is a bit taller than normal and the front seems a bit light.

And and before another safety nazi get you

Wear proper gear !!!!

Welcome to the world of 2 wheels soon

**C_A** · 7th June 2008, 13:35

I've got a 1982 yamaha passola, which is dreadfully gutless. with me @ ~80kg it struggles in wellington hill. flatmate @ 60kg hoons everywhere. newer tech and better condition ones will be fine....

and yeah go two stroke and run it on good quality oil. 4 stroke scooters are dreadful

**pritch** · 7th June 2008, 14:58

I have a well thrashed SJ50 and on occasion also ride a Today. The two stroke seems quite a lot quicker and hauls my fat arse up all the hills around here.

OK, on the very steepest hills the SJ50 struggles to do 30kph but at least I haven't had to get off and push - so far.

**melzyx** · 15th July 2008, 00:07

Originally Posted by Isla

I'm not able to test drive it as I have never driven a scooter before

That doesnt really matter as scooters are sort of like riding a bike. So if you can do that ok you should be fine =D

**newzealandpower** · 16th July 2008, 10:28

Hey guys,
from what I read the Jog seems to be a better choice for the hills of Wellington. I used to live in Italy and there I owned a Honda Sky (which looks very much like a Today) which served me fine for 7+ years. So I would be inclined to buy a Today, but I don't think it would be able to carry my partner and I around. What do you think?

Also, is it easy in NZ to remove speed restrictors? In Italy everybody does and I actually modified the exhaust and added power to my old scooter so that it would reach 90 km/h. But over there everybody does it, that's the problem. I'm afraid that if I do it here I'll be busted in no time.

Ah, last thing. if I decided to go for a Jog (in case it could carry my partner and me fine), where could I buy one in Wgtn?? I had a look online and there is bugger all in town.

Thanks
G.S.

**melzyx** · 16th July 2008, 12:27

The Jog doesn'nt carry two people, Just one.
Look at 161 of the road code to see if u can modify it

A place in alice town sell the jog and they have just shipped them in.
http://www.tssmotorcycles.co.nz/

Theres also a place somewhere in the hutt that have the honda today
http://www.motomart.co.nz/

**newzealandpower** · 16th July 2008, 13:30

Thanks man.
However, what do you think I should do re: buying a 50cc that carries 2 people?
I would even be happy to upgrade my licence and buy a 125 cc but that wouldn't be much cheaper than buying a $3/4k car. And it would have higher on road costs as well.

Having a scooter would be heaps cheaper in all regards, but if I can only ride it alone it's a bummer!

**bungbung** · 16th July 2008, 13:31

Originally Posted by melzyx

And you'll need to get an authorised person to check ur scooter before you modify it in any way.

That's not quite true. Once a scooter has been registered, it'll never need to be inspected so you can modify it all you like.

Of course legally your scooter would need to be registered as a motorbike if the power output is more than 2kW or the top speed exceeds 50km/h.

In reality this is ignored by all and sundry.

**UberRhys** · 16th July 2008, 13:49

Originally Posted by newzealandpower

I don't think it would be able to carry my partner and I around. What do you think?

I don't know, what does your partner look like?

Originally Posted by newzealandpower

Also, is it easy in NZ to remove speed restrictors? In Italy everybody does and I actually modified the exhaust and added power to my old scooter so that it would reach 90 km/h. But over there everybody does it, that's the problem. I'm afraid that if I do it here I'll be busted in no time.

The Honda Today is a 4T so the usual 2T restrictions won't make too much of a difference. The Yamaha Jog is a 2T scoot so minus the restrictions it will get better performance. I guess changing to lighter rollers and perhaps a better air pod filter and mega tune and the Honda Today would perform better.

Still I don't think you would get 90km out of it...

Don't worry about getting busted as the only way to tell is if you pull it apart, something no police orificer is willing to do. All they would do is issue you a ticket for going to fast if that is why they pulled you over.

Originally Posted by melzyx

you'll need to get an authorised person to check ur scooter before you modify it in any way.

Why would you need to get an authorised person to check it before you modify it? If your not worried about the warranty then just do it.