The drink/driving cop

[RT527]

RT527
I was not aware there was options for that cop. Just assumed there wasn't. But thats because I only know general jist of the story - maybe you have more info being up that way.

Nah Mate , when it comes to it theirs allways another option, everyone will say that he didnt have time to think about other options , well i say bollix to that as he is a trained professional whos not supposed to take his hat of and put on a cauliflower.
Other options , if he had a good working relationship with the local fire brigade why not go to the fire station, hey I know he`d technically be driving still but if he can hear the Siren i bet he`s within spitting distance and less chance of him pulling himself over ,then he`d be able to put oxygen and defib onto appliance and go with them.

[RT527]

Now you're getting into the area of when do you stop being a cop. Do you sacrifice your entire life to the force and live with no mates?
What about group rides when, as a cop, you see dangerous riding?
Dob people in?
This has to be one of the biggest problems as a small town cop.
As far as I was concerned, I went near deaf and blind when out of uniform. Lost my sense of smell too.

Exactly.....Also My Biggest and underlying thought on all this is The fact that the cop should never have been put in this position, and the Heart of this Problem Is the fact that our Police force is Horribly understaffed and unsupported, why is there not a back up cop sent to little 1 man stations when they are rostered off?.
Then even if the back up officer is`nt a first responder he could allways have driven drunk cop to scene, Awwww Feck here we go with conjecture and what ifs again.
Gonna wait till case is heard before I voice any more Opinions.

[Speedracer]

If I was in that position, I'd say I had a swig in the car just before the flashers went on.

but wouldn't you shoot yourself in the foot, literally drink driving?

[scumdog]

If I was in that position, I'd say I had a swig in the car just before the flashers went on.

Pah! you and 15,000 alcohol addled drivers! about every third driver trys that, makes no difference, the lawyers took care of that..

Blame it on "I just had a drink as you stopped me" if you want but by the second ebt blow you've cleared any alcohol from your mouth and as you know, it takes the lower reading as the result.

[scumdog]

So its not realy Bollox you've just admited that there is a residual mouth alcohol problem that needs a 20 minute delay

THAT is why it is not a problem, we know to wait, and from 'experimenting it takes a lot less than 20 minutes to get a true reading.

Anybody that insists in a ebt about a minute after a drink is a dick - and by the time it takes to get to the second test it would give a true result anyway.

[spudchucka]

Does anyone know what stage in the proceedings this case has reached?.

First appearance was last week, no plea was entered.

[spudchucka]

This cop let his best mate drive while pissed. While not technically a "crime", it is something he had power to prevent.

Thats pure speculation, nothing has been proven in that regard. There are also stories stating that the pissed mate snuck away without the cops knowledge, which story is true? Do we care or do we just go with the story that suits us the most?

[spudchucka]

Bollox blow into an evidential breath test after sluging back a strait spirit and see what happens it is different for a blood test but breath tests can over read because of risidual mouth alcohol

Thats why the instructions on evidential breath testing machines state you should wait 20 minutes after the last drink before conducting the test. Which coincidentally is about the length of time it usually takes to process someone at the road side, transport them to a police station, complete the paper work and then have them blow in the machine. Convenient aye.

[spudchucka]

How does the cop know that?

As per above, or:

Note book entry: Time he went 3T........

Note book entry: Time he required evidential breath test.

Didn't you snakes use notebooks?

[spudchucka]

If I was in that position, I'd say I had a swig in the car just before the flashers went on.

And if you were pissed do you think an additional 20 minutes would make any difference?

[The Pastor]

I was talking to a cop, and he said to be above 80 (what ever the units are) you have to be pretty pissed....

[Hitcher]

Exactly.....Also My Biggest and underlying thought on all this is The fact that the cop should never have been put in this position

The fact is that the cop put himself in this position. If he had not let his mate drive off into the night pissed the world today would be a different place. We wouldn't be having this discussion for one thing, and there would be one more person alive in the world.

[buellbabe]

The fact is that the cop put himself in this position. If he had not let his mate drive off into the night pissed the world today would be a different place. We wouldn't be having this discussion for one thing, and there would be one more person alive in the world.

Well when you put it like that its pretty hard to dispute... altho I feel sorry for the cop I have to agree with your point of view.

[ManDownUnder]

The fact is that the cop put himself in this position. If he had not let his mate drive off into the night pissed the world today would be a different place. We wouldn't be having this discussion for one thing, and there would be one more person alive in the world.

You can not hold a cop (or anyone) responsible for the actions of another. If I choose to do something dumb... it's my choice. Whether a cop or anyone else agrees or disagrees is another issue entirely and hardly adds to the culpability of the non driver/idiot.

The response of the cop to the accident is what's in questions here.

Thats pure speculation, nothing has been proven in that regard. There are also stories stating that the pissed mate snuck away without the cops knowledge, which story is true? Do we care or do we just go with the story that suits us the most?

Per my comment above.

No, we don't go with the story that suits us best (just reiterating your point) and no we shouldn't care. It's of interest only - nothing more important than that in respect of the guy driving away.

It would bring into question the cops judgement while drunk... but then I believe that alcohol impairs judgement, and that's well known

[Hitcher]

You can not hold a cop (or anyone) responsible for the actions of another. If I choose to do something dumb... it's my choice.

You may think that, but infortunately the law, in many areas, has a different view. OSH legislation is pretty clear on this, for one. Yes, you have a god-given right to do something dumb, but there are occasions when others have to face consequences for this dumbness.

But then there's the moral side of the matter. I know that people often (unnecessarily) beat themselves up because of things they think they should have done that may have stopped something bad happening. But then there are times when they should have taken action but didn't, for whatever reasons.

This case points a big finger at a local Constable. But the wider Mokau community needs to take a long, hard look at itself as well, because it is also complicit in this most tragic saga.