Private vs public schooling?

[Indiana_Jones]

If we're talking primary, the main thing I'd look out for is the PC crap. Fucked if any kids I have are gonna learn Maori.

-Indy

[James Deuce]

If we're talking primary, the main thing I'd look out for is the PC crap. Fucked if any kids I have are gonna learn Maori.

-Indy

Why? What threatens you about bi-lingual kids? It's the NORM in most civilised countries (except the UK). Languages are desperately important in brain development, and ongoing social attitudes.

Tired of the reactionary crap about Maori in schools. It's a good thing and is long overdue. Like it or not, there are two official languages in NZ and no Government to date with the balls to make equal facility in both a priority.

Tired of whinging, reactionary white boys who fear change and points of difference. Would you prefer a history of genocide like our neighbours next door in Australia?

[Skyryder]

I wouldn't send my kids to a private school even if I could afford it. Not that it makes much difference now as they have both left school. My eldest daughter is one of the most respected workers in her field and my youngest has just finished a her double degree. All courtesy of the public schooling system.

The most important thing in education today is parental support. Problem is that is starts with great enthusiasm in the primary schools, fades in the Intermediate schools and is vertualy non existance in the secondary schools.

If your children come from a caring and loving family, are given their due respect as members of that family they will do well no matter where they go.

Skyryder

[terbang]

My Kids have been to school in Switzerland, Northern Territory, England, NSW and now NZ. The primary school here (Waipippi) has about 150 kids and is great however the college (Waiuku) sucks. My kids learnt German when they were in Switzerland and both have a very good grasp of it and Indonesian was compusory in the NT so they have a working knowledge of that as well. NZ schooling curriculum is quite a way behind a lot of the world as my Kids are doing well and are also the youngest in their classes as well. My oldest lass is off to continue her study in music back in Aussie next year as wee feel it is better there than in NZ. Quite frankly the best part of their education was the traveling around the world as expatriot kids.
My wife was private school educated and is not interested in having her kids, and would oppose it, do the same.

[Skyryder]

Why? What threatens you about bi-lingual kids? It's the NORM in most civilised countries (except the UK). Languages are desperately important in brain development, and ongoing social attitudes.

Tired of the reactionary crap about Maori in schools. It's a good thing and is long overdue. Like it or not, there are two official languages in NZ and no Government to date with the balls to make equal facility in both a priority.

Tired of whinging, reactionary white boys who fear change and points of difference. Would you prefer a history of genocide like our neighbours next door in Australia?

Was going to say much the same thing to I_J but you've said it for me.

Greenie coming your way.

Skyryder

[Indiana_Jones]

Why? What threatens you about bi-lingual kids? It's the NORM in most civilised countries (except the UK). Languages are desperately important in brain development, and ongoing social attitudes.

Tired of the reactionary crap about Maori in schools. It's a good thing and is long overdue. Like it or not, there are two official languages in NZ and no Government to date with the balls to make equal facility in both a priority.

Tired of whinging, reactionary white boys who fear change and points of difference. Would you prefer a history of genocide like our neighbours next door in Australia?

Why should my kid have to learn Maori if they didn't want to?

I'm not against any race here, but how can you make someone learn a language they don't want to?

-Indy

[terbang]

Often, when living in Europe, people would ask me what the official languages of NZ were and often became puzzled as to why I only spoke one of them. They themselves spoke 2 or 3 or even more and felt that it was normal to be multilingual. Learning another language certainly helps you to understand the people that the language is from. My Kids have absorbed a fair bit of Maori since they have been back in NZ though, because they have allready done so before and their brains are now switchable, they are eager to learn it. I think that it is a good thing and encourage it and wish that I had done the same when I was younger.

[Skyryder]

Why should my kid have to learn Maori if they didn't want to?

I'm not against any race here, but how can you make someone learn a language they don't want to?

-Indy

Seems by your post it is you who does not want them to learn Maori and if as you say 'your' kids do not want to learn Maori is it a 'learned' attitude from yourself??

Skyryder

[The_Dover]

who'd want to learn to talk like a savage?

learn french or spanish or, god forbid, even italian. but at least something useful in the real world.

[Indiana_Jones]

Seems by your post it is you who does not want them to learn Maori and if as you say 'your' kids do not want to learn Maori is it a 'learned' attitude from yourself??

Skyryder

Well I don't want to.

And my kids might not.

And is it a crime if it's a 'learned' attitude from myself?

-Indy

[jazbug5]

Well I don't want to.

And my kids might not.

And is it a crime if it's a 'learned' attitude from myself?

-Indy

It is if you're planning to bring them up to be closed minded and electively ignorant...

[Indiana_Jones]

It is if you're planning to bring them up to be closed minded and electively ignorant...

Isn't everyone ignorant really?

Or is ignorance based on view?

-Indy

[Sketchy_Racer]

I went to public school for the first few years of schooling.

Got screwed up then

Got put into a Private Christian college after that. Got even more screwed up .

The shit they teach there is whack. We were FORCED to sing christain songs and do bible study etc as apart of out Curriculum there.

I hated every day i went to that college.

I hated it so much i made a point of getting "reccommended to leave" by the principal. I did this by expressing my thoughts of that college to the principal.

Then i got put into a Public College. Did well. Learned alot In the subjects that were Important to me and and made sure i passed all the subjects that i needed.

I got 1st and Distinction three years in row in my Construction class. I loved that class.

I also did well in science which was a subject i was having serioyus trouble at the private school.

I don't know about the non-religious private schools out there, But Unless it is your religion. I would NOT reccommend that parents send thier children to a religious school unless the children want to.

hope that help

[Holy Roller]

We have recently placed our son in a private school as the local schools try their best but there are too many distractions from poor parenting.
Why private? the school is a decile 8 school, teacher to pupil ratio is excellent 1:10, multi aged classroom. It is not a christian school though it has values that we subscribe to. As our children have been homeschooled this school is the next best thing to homeschooling in my humble opinion. What with running a store the Mrs has now limited time to spend with educating the kids. If better schools were avaliable then they would be considered but there are none that fit the bill at this time for where our kids are at. It has taken a while for him to settle in, sitting in one place being told what to do normal school routine and that sort of stuff. Now he comes home happy and even writes poetry for homework not a mean feat for a 14 year old.

[750Y]

i went to them all (in fact 15 schools in 3 years at one point in OZ) including even catholic boarding school in the hutt which is why i'm still an inferior dumbass compared to all these success stories i'm hearing. i learned different stuff about life at private/public schools. the curriculum seemed pretty similar, & the teacher-student ratio seemed comparable. attitudes seemed different that's for sure & i'd have to say that i feel there is more pressure in general on students whose parents have paid big bucks to send their kids to private. it's not all rich snobs either, some parents really sacrifice & struggle. i support all parents who take the plunge & make the decision for their kids, it's a big call when you know it could potentially effect the kid's future prospects. in reality there may be stages of a kid's life when 1 choice is appropriate & other times when another choice may be a better solution. different environments may suit different kids from different backgrounds too & parent's circumstances may also factor into the equation. this thread reminds me of the red wire/black wire predicament where you are propelled into hero legend status & everyone lives happily ever after basking in your aura or your asshole is propelled through your throat & the defenseless masses are despatched to oblivion as a result of your choice.