Exclusion of Motards from F1, F2 & F3: Good or bad?

[TonyB]

As has been mentioned elsewhere, MNZ have apparently ruled that Motards are now excluded from F1, F2 and F3 racing. For those that don't know, Motards are dirt bikes which have been fitted with road tyres- usually they fit 17" spoked wheels to take advantage of the sticky tyres/ slicks available. Typically Motards riders go for European bikes... because then they get to race in BEARS as well

At Nelson this year by all accounts some of the Motard riders were pretty upset about not being able to enter so many classes. When I was there last year some had the audacity to complain that the gap between races was too short and they didn't have time to refuel... they were able to enter so many classes that some were actually going through more than a tank of fuel each round... and they were complaining?!?! Got to have respect for anyone whos fit enough to be able to race pretty much all day though.

So the poll is to see what general opinion is. My personal view is that there is a class for Motards, and I can't see why they should be able to enter in pretty much every class thats going. Riders in F1, 2 or 3 spend a whole lot of money to be able to race in just one class. Riders of 125 GP bikes (RS125 etc) are already lumped in with the F3 bikes, and they have enough trouble tripping over them in the corners without all the Motards getting involved as well. I guess its the same in other classes too.

From a spectator point of veiw, Motards are awesome! But when they are out there over and over and over again it must get a tad boring. Plus they have a definite negative effect on the ability of traditional road race bikes to race with each other.

So what do you think?

[Shaun]

If you want to chase chooks get a dirt bike

If you want to race on sealed roads get a road bike

This form of racing is brilliant to watch, but they should be made to stick to there own class

Motards should have there own class! and should probally have there own meetings

[Mr. Peanut]

I can understand why, the different lines of a motard bike can upset those of a road bike. On the right track though, they could have a distinct advantage, but do they inhibit the sport?

[Brian d marge]

If you want to chase chooks get a dirt bike

If you want to race on sealed roads get a road bike

This form of racing is brilliant to watch, but they should be made to stick to there own class

Motards should have there own class! and should probally have there own meetings

Totally agree , What ,,#%$%&''n decided to run them in a road bike class???

As far as I know ..no other country does this ( correct me if I am wrong )

but motards take different lines .. they have ( IMHO ) no place in a road race ,,unless of course the off road section was included and the road bikes had to use it ,,, now that would be a laugh !!!

Stephen

[Grantasaurus]

Is there no motard type race series in NZ?

If so, that's a tragic loss, they're so good to watch!

[nsrpaul]

If you want to chase chooks get a dirt bike

If you want to race on sealed roads get a road bike

This form of racing is brilliant to watch, but they should be made to stick to there own class

Motards should have there own class! and should probally have there own meetings

like i said in another thread, best thing mnz has done in a long time

[nsrpaul]

and keep the buggers out of my way, a good road racer on a motard tends to be fine, but a over compensting motocrosser like many and the nelson street race over the last few years tends to just wipe out any poor barstrd in their way

[Fat Tony]

The different lines taken by the two types of bikes are frustrating enough when mixing it up on a trackday, I can only imagine that that goes more so when racing and must make for some very hairy moments

[Nicksta]

motards are fun to watch.... but they are scary too.. and i dont see why they cant just have their own class to race in.... you dont put sidecars with F1....
thats what classes are for isant it? i'm about to start clubmans.. and i'd be a little freaked racing with them as they slide and take different lines....

I like motards.. but in their own classes.... just like F1 dont race with clubmans or sidecars....

[nadroj]

Keep them in their own class except for the likes of formula Wanganui type races (fastest 20 bikes etc) or other invitation races but out of dedicated road race fields including BEARS.

[James Deuce]

The riding styles between motard and road racer are completely different and I've seen motards balk 125s so many times it gets me a little hot under the collar.

It can be dangerous and expensive for both riders when someone gets balked mid-corner.

[Jantar]

I don't see a problem with letting motards mix it with road race bikes, provided they mix on even engine capacities. ie Motards up to 125 cc mix it with 125 GP bikes, Motards up to 600 cc mix it with 600 cc race bikes etc. Take away any capacity advantage and just let them race on their merits, then if they are first into the first corner good on the them.

[nickchilli]

if they want to race with superbikes , then they should be brave enough not to put there foot down on every corner

[Sketchy_Racer]

Nope the buggars can leave F3, F3 alone, but IF thier bike is a Bears bike, then that seems fair to me.

I believe most bikes should have the opportunity to cross enter into 2 classes.

Anymore than 2 is getting greedy.

125s need thier own class ( but i would say that )

[DEATH_INC.]

I have no problem with them, they use the same sorta lines I do and are easy to blast by on the straight bits......though I can see how they would be a headache on a 125.
What the real issue is is why I can't enter f2 on my old 750 that's slower than most 600's????