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Thread: UK lobbying groups speak out against "External Throttle Control"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    65mph (or 5mph slower than the national speed limit on motorways!) was the suggestion by that clown of a "transport editor" they found from somewhere.
    He want's to be able to finally pass a bike.

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    What do they mean by increased environmental damage through the use of bikes?

    "The committee said it appeared to be government policy to encourage greater use of motorcycles, despite concerns over safety and the environmental damage"
    ...she took the KT, and left me the Buell to ride....(Blues Brothers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstriumph View Post
    all cages should be horse-drawn .........
    And have a man waving a red flag, walking in front.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    They're missing the bigger picture.
    Accident rates for bikes are falling in the UK. In spite of the increase in bike use over the last few years.
    It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Bandit View Post
    Gah! Pesky no good meddling lefty hoity toity brown trousered proactive knee-jerking committees.
    You forgot to mention "Grey-suited, grey-faced, SafetyBureaucrats, with no imagination and no life."

    Personally, I think they've got the wrong end of the stick. Or maybe the wrong stick altogether.
    How many of us actually ride around at the top speed of our bikes (apart from GN250 owners)? Maybe you might try it once, to see how fast you can go, but that's it. While it was almost mandatory to ride my first bikes at top speed, I haven't bothered with the last four I've owned. Maybe if I ever get the courage to risk trashing the VifFerraRi on the track, I might do it (had a demo VFR800 up to an indicated 220 on the back straight of Pukekohe, and a FahrtSturm up to 230).
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    And have a man waving a red flag, walking in front.
    sexist beast! you want to send us all back to the dark ages??
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    I suggest they put similar restrictions on cars too then. 65 mph would be the max limit required by them surely?

    Or we could apply some common sense.
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    Why doesn't the gummint simply empower some agency to punish those that exceed the speed limit?
    Imposing fines would be one method, and could be used a ready source of income to assist in funding the management of this fine country.
    ...she took the KT, and left me the Buell to ride....(Blues Brothers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    How many of us actually ride around at the top speed of our bikes (apart from GN250 owners)? Maybe you might try it once, to see how fast you can go, but that's it. While it was almost mandatory to ride my first bikes at top speed, I haven't bothered with the last four I've owned. ).
    While I agree not alot of people ride their bikes full noise everywhere they go with technology what it is and sports bikes being what they are double the speed limit is possible is a few seconds. Just to confuse what side of the argument I am on I was watching 20 20 last night and they had a devils run thing on there with a "non race" from AKLD to Queenstown for the rich and not so famous in very expensive cars. Some were looking in on 270km/hr. One guy made one of the stretches with an AVERAGE speed of over 130km/hr which is pretty damn impressive if he slowed down through the towns. No mention of accidents or deaths with these guys driving and breakneck speeds.

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    "The Motor Cycle Industry Association says road safety can be improved by better training, changing attitudes and improving roads rather than just focusing on speed."

    That sounds like the most sensible way of dealing with things to me, rather than electronic intervention... as mentioned, a maschine can never assess all circumstances, so Iwould say it would be safer to leave those sorts of decisions in the hands of the riders

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    Just make every one ride Honda's and Yamaha's....that will keep the speed down.

    Or maybe we should all ride Harleys...slower top speed...safer? Yeah right.

    Cool KB rides though if we all had RS125's.

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    every bike should have a black box fitted as mentioned before. no need to go faster than 100, or 50 etc

    EDIT: and some sort of device that limits acceleration to a sensible level
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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    How many of us actually ride around at the top speed of our bikes (apart from GN250 owners)?
    I haven't actually ever fullyopened the VTR, though I will admitt I have blown the cobb webbs out a couple of times...

    it is always nice to know I have the extra horses for those aww crap moments when I need it.. and there have been many times,

    • passing a truck and trailer and then having to open up to pass a extra vehicle who was tucked in and unseeable till you were up by the cab of the truck...
    • Passing a vehicle then one of the on coming traffic decides to speed up and or one decides to start an over taking manouver of there own...
    • I have had a truck follow me at a pretty high speed and all I could see in my rear view mirror was MAC (tho I actually this one pass)


    and there are a few other moments I have actually needed the extra omph to finish a manouver where I admit I have mis judged distance.

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    I say they should do it. I'll take up some shares in Dynojet Limited, and also do an electrical diploma so i can sell de-restrictor kits to bypass the speed restrictors.
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    A more disturbing prospect is the gps traking of vehicles. I could live with a bike size / power restriction way easier than my speed being tracked 24/7!

    Must investigate how to cloak my bike

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