F3 Rules, what ya all reckon?

[Shaun]

212-Motorsport
L-Plate Rider
Bike: Suzuki SV 650 Race Bike
Location: Invercargill


I cont care what any of you rish ass racers think I Rekon we have a standard 650 class run what yah brung type thing who gives a Fuck about ohlins this ohlins that this sorta class should sort the bitchs from the men and if suzuki,kawasaki,hyosung New Zealand were to get involved I cant see it been a big problem to get mnz to make a champisonship class!!


Young Mr Anthony Stephens, ( AKA 212) To you I apoligise for my imature actions and wording I used in my PM to you, and I will still spend my own money making tool calls to a certain family in the south Island that has done so much for your racing, giving them advice and set up idea's to try on your bike!

You would deserve it

Just because someone has a contrary opinion and different ideas to yours does not make him a wanker

nice way to encourage the young guys Shaun

Kickaha, it was not that his opinion differed, it was the foul wording and the abuse at people on this forum that are only trying to help, by offering there opinions based on many moons of experience.

Now if you think it is ok for a 15 year old BOY, to get on here and rant like that at/to some one,who has spent there own Money,and time, on helping the people that have been trying to help him ie, his old sponsor John Adairs! well Sir, to you I apoligise as well, and please exscuse me for poor judgement, and I will endevour to make sure I never have a slip like that again.


Arguing on the internet is like a pig in shit, the more you do it, the sooner you realise that they love it

Have a very nice day.

[Hillbilly]

Why not leave learning suspension until its needed (600's)?
While it is safer to have great suspension, i think the racers produced that learn this way would be smoother, and more understanding.

Here's what Tim Sanford wrote in the July issue of Cycle Torque while reviewing the Cagiva Raptor 650:

Once you push harder than a fast tour over indifferent surfaces the bikes suspension reaches it's discomfort zone. Try knee-dragging and you'll end up dragging something a bit more painful than your knee: the lack of sophistication in the suspension reduces it's ability to keep the wheels in constant contact with the road surface....

[ZorsT]

That problem is easily avoided. Stay away from Cagiva Raptors.
If they really are that bad, why would someone be racing one anyway?
The tracks surface is usually a tad more desirable than the 'indifferent surfaces' Tim is speaking of anyway.

[Chops]

Arguing on the internet is like a pig in shit, the more you do it, the sooner you realise that they love it

Good shot Shaun...

The thing is, those of us who have got the older bikes are feeling a little

And then we find a lovely little thread to bitch on...

I'm building something, though, that will either bring me up to the 650's level in terms of power (and with more torque), or be hilariously unrideable... on that subject though.

It will be F3 legal under the current- or older- rules.
I'm outta here . See you'se on another thread... unless this one can go back to the original subject.

[cowpoos]

Good shot Shaun...

The thing is, those of us who have got the older bikes are feeling a little

And then we find a lovely little thread to bitch on...

I'm building something, though, that will either bring me up to the 650's level in terms of power (and with more torque), or be hilariously unrideable... on that subject though.

It will be F3 legal under the current- or older- rules.
I'm outta here . See you'se on another thread... unless this one can go back to the original subject.

ditto.....I hav a project F3 bike aswell.....and it should be very compeditive under the rules.....and build cost will be a total of about 5K ready to race.....

but then.....I could be wrong

[mikey]

212-Motorsport
L-Plate Rider
Bike: Suzuki SV 650 Race Bike
Location: Invercargill

Young Mr Anthony Stephens, ( AKA 212) To you I apoligise for my imature actions and wording I used in my PM to you, and I will still spend my own money making toll calls to a certain family in the south Island that has done so much for your racing, giving them advice and set up idea's to try on your bike!

now if you think it is ok for a 15 year old BOY, to get on here and rant like that at/to some one,who has spent there own Money,and time, on helping the people that have been trying to help him ie, his old sponsor John Adairs! well Sir, to you I apoligise as well, and please exscuse me for poor judgement, and I will endevour to make sure I never have a slip like that again.

ave a very nice day.

hooooo hooooo hoooo

burn "boy"

in any other developed country likes of shuan would be chargin hundreds per hour. guess you don't appreciate shit if its free

thanks for my evening kiwibiker jollies

[Tim 39]

I'm not guna get into this huge argument, (I can't b bothad readin it all)as it doesnt affect me. I used to have an NSR250 that I ran in F3 and I decided that what they could do was seperate F3 by running a 650 production (production style rules) and then just F3 being whatever is left, 400's 250's etc for people who want to ride these sorts of bikes and get a taste for things like the nats and do it more cheaply because lets face it 250's aren't the most competitive bike against an SV (F3 was doing better times at nats than 250 GP let alone 250 proddie!!!) so seperate them out!, there are enough SV's etc to have their own class now anyway and then 250/ 400 riders don't fell they "have" to go sv to be competitive, so win win i rekn.
By the way you all have some valid points in the argument so I won't take sides:P ( I don't know much about rules etc, but why not base it on 600 production sort of rules?)

[Tim 39]

I'm building something, though, that will either bring me up to the 650's level in terms of power (and with more torque), or be hilariously unrideable... on that subject though

.

what are you building? may I ask?

[Shaun]

Thanks for the PM mate, I,ve been where you have just gone before, see ya at the track

[212-Motorsport]

Thinking of the future


To all concerned in this thread that have been posting there thoughts on this subject.

If you feel offended by my Choice of words with my post RE Rich ______, please accept this as my apology.

I do appreciate your input.

Regards Anthony Stephens

[Tim 39]

Good on you Anthony, a good way to fix a bad situation lol
I accept your apology, and I hope everyone else does!!

[Shaun]

Awsome mate!

[Shaun]

Fuck off dick weed blood sucking injury chasing pain leaching homo sexual gay bar loiterer that likes to watck little boys do there from up in trees

PS, O Morning G

[oyster]

A message for Anthony, from Yoda. He called last night, couldn't track you down, so left a message. He said he gave you a bit of tuition a while back on how to sorry (unconditionally) and the value it has. He is very pleased now
after initial disappointment reading your poor wording of a very good point of view. Yoda says people are judged not by their mistakes but how they act after realising it. Your apology makes Yoda very happy and is sure you will be well rewarded.

I hope this message I've passed on all makes sense (can't figure it out myself)

Oyster