Sad joke

[judecatmad]

He was 15! Just a kid.
A stupid teenager who didn't think thru the consequences of his actions like most 15 year olds. So none of you ever did anything blindingly stupid at that age?
And now his own life is ruined.

Locking him up for life won't change anything.
My 2 cents.

Yup, did lots of blindingly stupid things (am still making some god-awful mistakes even at 33) but I never, ever killed a person or did anything that could have resulted in the death or serious injury of someone.

For god's sake, at what age must you be expected to know the difference between a silly prank and a potential life-taker? How long is this nanny state going to keep taking away responsibility from its citizens? And how long are parents of kids going to let them run wild and then deny any responsibility when they screw up?

If he had been 18 or 20 or even 30 would he have got the same? Actually, you know, I wonder....given the soft-line the justice system takes these days...I truly do wonder.

No, the kid probably never expected the kill someone but that's only because he probably never expected the rock to actually hit anyone's car. It's not murder, but it is most definitely manslaughter and if manslaughter gets a person 4 years (in what will be, let's face it, a pretty cushy detention centre somewhere, given the kid's age) then woo hoo, let's all go out and do whatever we like and sod the consequences.

And no, his own life is not ruined (but even if it was, who cares? he's ruined way more than one life with his stupid actions). He'll be under 20 when he gets out. If he even serves half his sentence I'll be amazed. And at less than 20, he has his WHOLE LIFE to make up for his past. That's if he learns anything from this at all.

My 2c.

[Crasherfromwayback]

But I am a parent with a teenage son and I know how stupid they can be.


I really feel for the poor family that lost Chris, but nothing will bring him back.

Then I'd be surprised if you didn't want more than four years for the person that took your sons life in a premeditated act of stupid violence.

You'd be ok with that yeah?

I don't think so, and if so......Jesus!

[Brett]

I couldn't believe it when i heard that he only got 4 years, i was absolutely pissed, more outraged than i have been with many things in the media lately...bar the kahui twins.

How can this little shit only get 4 years? What sort of precedence does this set?? It says that if you want to get 4 years free food and accomodation housed in a state youth detention center while getting the chance to get a good FREE?? education.
He will leave prison younger than the guy he was was.

And who says violence doesn't solve anything??? I was just hearing today on Newtalk ZB about a city overseas that was rife with gangs causing shit like cutting people all over with razor blades and beating people up and robbing them.
The council/police got together a whole group of ex-SAS boys and gave them the instructions to clean the area up.
They would pick the gang punks up off the road, beat them up and leave them in a ditch 20km out of town. And funny thing...the crime rates dropped!

I am tired of the bleeding hearts out there defending these kids, at 15 you are old enough to know what you are doing. My 9 year old sister would know that a heavy concrete block dropped on someone driving on the motorway would kill them. If he is too dumb to realise that, then i say bring back the death penalty because who knows if the next person would be my wife, or other loved one. I know that if I was Chris' brother or mate, i would ensure that the little punk never forgets what he did.

I hope that you guys have good helmets, cause you never know when a chunk of concrete will be meeting your head or torso from an overbridge.

[Hitcher]

I hear a lot of heat but I'm not reading any light. So what do all of you outraged folk think would have been a "fairer" sentence? You may wish to consider:

- First offender
- 15-years old
- Manslaughter.

I'd like to hear some reasoned responses, rather than just a bunch of vigilantes baying for blood.

[skelstar]

We're not rational yet.

[Patrick]

He was 15! Just a kid.
A stupid teenager who didn't think thru the consequences of his actions like most 15 year olds. So none of you ever did anything blindingly stupid at that age?
And now his own life is ruined.

Locking him up for life won't change anything.
My 2 cents.

Worst 2c spent on here in a while... at 15 you know right from wrong. Yep, most would have done stupid stuff at 15, but the vast overwhelming majority won't do anything close to this form of ultimate stupidity.

[Patrick]

Face the Curry's and say that.
His life isn't ruined . He has free room and board for 4 years while he learns to be a better criminal.

Free room and board for two years Lou... and he has served 1 already (as time in remand). Sucks.

Surely everyone knows if you get four, you do 2. You get 10, you do 5 etc etc etc...

[Scouse]

I hear a lot of heat but I'm not reading any light. So what do all of you outraged folk think would have been a "fairer" sentence? You may wish to consider:

- First offender
- 15-years old
- Manslaughter.

I'd like to hear some reasoned responses, rather than just a bunch of vigilantes baying for blood.

It might be Its first offence and it might have been only 14 when it through the boulder off the overbridge but for heavens sake its not like it just shop lifted a Mars bar from the local Dairy this is a serious crime and it deserves serious punishment not a slap on the back of the hand with a wet bus ticket this thing needs to be caged up properly for a long time

[yungatart]

Wrong on so many levels! I am the parent of a 15 yo too and if he ever did anything that stupid, harebrained and totally thoughtless, I'd bloody well brain him myself!!
What is far worse than the trifling four years is that the dumb little prick will probably be out in ONE - that is a total slap in the face to society, not to mention the family and friends of the victim!

[riffer]

Look on the bright side people.

It's more than you'd get if you drove a car into him and killed him.

If I was going to kill someone (not that I would mind you) I would definitely run into them with a really strong car...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I hear a lot of heat but I'm not reading any light. So what do all of you outraged folk think would have been a "fairer" sentence? You may wish to consider:

- First offender
- 15-years old
- Manslaughter.

I'd like to hear some reasoned responses, rather than just a bunch of vigilantes baying for blood.

I think ten years of cleaning blood and guts from mortuary tables would be a good start. I also think chemical casturation is pretty fair. If he's not smart enough to realise his actions would more than likely kill, he's certainly not smart enough to bring a child of his own up properly.

[Hitcher]

It might be Its first offence and it might have been only 14 when it through the boulder off the overbridge but for heavens sake its not like it just shop lifted a Mars bar from the local Dairy this is a serious crime and it deserves serious punishment not a slap on the back of the hand with a wet bus ticket this thing needs to be caged up properly for a long time

I'm still not hearing an alternative to what the Court handed down.

[Scouse]

I'm still not hearing an alternative to what the Court handed down.

Ok hows this a longer sentence like 8 years before parole is conciderd in a real prison with proper prisoners that will tear it a new arsehole if it somuch as farts the wrong way

[Flatcap]

I hear a lot of heat but I'm not reading any light. So what do all of you outraged folk think would have been a "fairer" sentence? You may wish to consider:

- First offender
- 15-years old
- Manslaughter.

I'd like to hear some reasoned responses, rather than just a bunch of vigilantes baying for blood.

This isn't about fairness or reasoned responses - it's about clearing the gene pool of morons and protecting the rest of us from idiotic actions.

[Hitcher]

That wasn't so hard, now was it?