Sad joke

[terbang]

Stark contrast between here and Indonesia.

NZ: Some low life, shit head kid, deliberatly drops a lump of concrete off a bridge and kills a guy and is only likely to serve a few months in a comfortable jail..! And there are those that defend him..!

Indonesia: A bunch of Aussie (and other) drug smugglers appeal a life sentence in jail and end up getting the firing squad..!

[Crasherfromwayback]

As for chemical castration...

And what's wrong with my suggestion?

They guys premeditated an horrific crime with horrendous consequenses, why should he have the joy of having a child when he's destroyed another familys joy? He's obviously not smart enough to bring a child up properly!!!

Gotta 'break the cycle' some time.......

[Goblin]

As for chemical castration...

Make it physical castration!! We don't need losers like these breeding!

[Str8 Jacket]

It really sux when someone fucks up big time like this. Its bad enough that he even dropped the thing let alone kill someone... What he has done makes me really angry. He's gonna have to live with this for the rest of his life. Everyone will know his name and what he did. I really hope that he doesnt become a harden criminal once he is released cause he's got quite a few years left in him yet.

[RT527]

He was 15! Just a kid.
A stupid teenager who didn't think thru the consequences of his actions like most 15 year olds. So none of you ever did anything blindingly stupid at that age?
And now his own life is ruined.

Locking him up for life won't change anything.
My 2 cents.

I kinda agree here.
The Boy knew damn well that he was going to cause damage to the vehicle, what he didnt factor in is that the concrete block would hit the windscreen and he probably never thought that it would actually go through the windscreen and kill someone.....he was intent on

having fun

.
But I still think 4 yrs should be done locked away from everybody, No TV, No Stereo, No contact....Hell maybe they should Make him do School work for the next four years solid.

[rwh]

I kinda agree here.
The Boy knew damn well that he was going to cause damage to the vehicle, what he didnt factor in is that the concrete block would hit the windscreen and he probably never thought that it would actually go through the windscreen and kill someone.....he was intent on [having fun].

My thoughts too.

But I still think 4 yrs should be done locked away from everybody, No TV, No Stereo, No contact....Hell maybe they should Make him do School work for the next four years solid.

I don't see the point in taking away the TV and the stereo. Contact with other criminals, I partly do. I've wondered about how it would work to never let 2 or more inmates be together without someone monitoring them, and stopping them every time they get out of line in any way - from planning crime (obviously) right down to swearing or taking pleasure from someone else's misfortune. Show them it's possible to be a decent citizen, in other words. The jailers need to respect that too, of course - the sentence is to be incarcerated, not to be humiliated or anything else. They need to be treated with respect (not honoured for their crimes, obviously - just ordinary human respect), so they can learn it for themselves.

Richard

[Lou Girardin]

Indonesia: A bunch of Aussie (and other) drug smugglers appeal a life sentence in jail and end up getting the firing squad..!

You wouldn't think that when you appeal for mercy on a life sentence, that the Indonesian idea of mercy is to spare you 20 years of hell by killing you.

[Bend-it]

You wouldn't think that when you appeal for mercy on a life sentence, that the Indonesian idea of mercy is to spare you 20 years of hell by killing you.

It's not uncommon in Singapore as well! Haha! The present Chief Justice has a reputation for adding time after an appeal if it was more of a whinge and an attempt at getting of lighter, as opposed to having genuine reasons etc!

Bring him over here I reckon! Chief Justice Yong Pung How. Just say I sent you.

[Swoop]

Just a slap on the hand with a dry bus ticket (coz the wet ones might hurt)

Sounds more dangerous to me... he might get a paper cut with the dry one!




At the very least with these people, sterilize them to avoid them contaminating the gene pool any further......

[pritch]

I don't think locking people up and throwing away the key, or treating violence with violence ever solves any problems or reduces the crime rate.
That has been shown over and over again to be the case.

Prison does work! If the criminals are in jail they can't commit crimes. Simple.

[rwh]

Prison does work! If the criminals are in jail they can't commit crimes. Simple.

Until they get out, at which time they'll be angrier with society, reinforced by discussing it with their new mates inside, who will have also taught them some new crimes to try.

You've got to change them as well - or leave them there for ever, and that's not appropriate for most crimes.

Richard

[ManDownUnder]

I kinda agree here.
The Boy knew damn well that he was going to cause damage to the vehicle, what he didnt factor in is that the concrete block would hit the windscreen and he probably never thought that it would actually go through the windscreen and kill someone.....

Yeah - probably the case. It's most likely a case of not thinking about what could happen.

Much like anyone on here doing 180 on their bike down an open country road. The chances are you'll get away with it and not do any damage. He possibly thought the same.

Then again he may not have.

I loved 15. I was a menace to myself and others and it was normal to get into a car with a pissed driver and go for a hoon, do wheelies etc. Great fun at the time, but I look back and shudder...

Bring him over here I reckon! Chief Justice Yong Pung How. Just say I sent you.

I prefer a justice system that's just... as in the name. Rather than a punishment system

Prison does work! If the criminals are in jail they can't commit crimes. Simple.

uh huh... so that'd be no contact with the outside world while they're in prison then? and there's always the other point brought up below...

Until they get out, at which time they'll be angrier with society, reinforced by discussing it with their new mates inside, who will have also taught them some new crimes to try.

You've got to change them as well - or leave them there for ever, and that's not appropriate for most crimes.

Richard

Yup - that one. Prison's a great school for the crim to be.

[Street Gerbil]

Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am honestly surprised. How cannot you see that such a light treatment for taking one's life diminishes the value of human life per se. I would have (possibly) agreed that he is just a teenage moron if he would have stolen his parents' car and crashed it into somebody. Kids at 14 are invincible. I know I was. But at age 14 one could adequately understand the consequences of hurling a block of concrete onto the motorway, and if he could not then he needs to be confined in a mental institution rather than imprisoned. This is a clear-cut murder and should be treated as such. Not for his sake, and not even for the sake of the relatives and friends of the guy who got murdered, but for the sake of the whole society, because doing otherwise would send a message: "you can get away with murder if you play your cards right".

[Lou Girardin]

Greg Newbold, criminal turned criminologist, said that the light sentence was the wrong move. A longer spell inside, under the proper supervision, has a much better chance of making the killer realise that he's taken the wrong path.

[Finn]

I think a public stoning of this little fucker and his parents is what's needed. He's a mongrel and will always be one.

Sterilisation is another good method of reducing crime.