Conspiracy Theory

**Balding Eagle** · 12th September 2006, 22:01

Popular Mechanics has just put out a publication debunking all the conspiracies. I suggest that all who think it was done by any other than the terrorists should read it.

**Street Gerbil** · 12th September 2006, 22:01

<sarcasm>Here is the most convincing evidence that 9/11 was a Bushco conspiracy. I mean, come on, how could one possibly dispute such irrefutable facts?</sarcasm>

**MOTOXXX** · 12th September 2006, 22:12

i do believe that it was a terrorist attack. however, they wouldnt do it just out of the blue for no reason.

the amount of shit the US gave the middle east, it was bound to happen

**Pixie** · 12th September 2006, 23:26

A conspiracy theory Oliver Stone would be proud of, "Grampa vs.
Sexual Inadequacy"....

Bart: OK, it's not _painfully_ clear the adults are _definitely_
paving the way for an invasion by the saucer people.
Milhouse: You fool! Can't you see it's a massive government conspiracy?
Or have they gotten to you too?
[he and Bart start wrestling]
Lisa: Hey! Hey, hey, stop it! Stop it! Why are you guys jumping
to such ridiculous conclusions? Haven't you ever heard of
Occam's Razor? "The simplest explanation is probably the
correct one."
Bart: [condescending] So what's the simplest explanation?
Lisa: I don't know. Maybe they're all reverse vampires and they
have to get home before dark.
Everyone: Aah! Reverse vampires! Reverse vampires!
[Lisa sighs]

Bart: So finally, we're all in agreement about what's going on with
the adults. Milhouse?
Milhouse: [steps up to blackboard] Ahem. OK, here's what we've got: the
Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people --
Bart: Thank you.
Milhouse: -- under the supervision of the reverse vampires --
Lisa: [sighs]
Milhouse: -- are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish
plot to eliminate the meal of dinner. [sotto voce] We're
through the looking glass, here, people...
--

**Jantar** · 12th September 2006, 23:43

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

The Pentagon vs 757 crash is suspect and the Americans know it, investigate it carefully.
We are lead to believe that over a hundred tonnes of airplane dissapeared in to that building.
I call Bullshit

Of course not. The aircraft hit the ground just short of the pentagon as shown in this photograph. http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dyn....asp%3Fid=2445

Interesting also that the hole in the pentagon wall was just slightly larger than a 757 fuselage diameter, and that some of the debris had the distinctive Boeing Green primer,m and that the engine parts found (and photographed) matched the 757's that supposedly hit the Pentagon.

Have a look at http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm for more information.

**Jantar** · 12th September 2006, 23:55

Originally Posted by slowpoke

Nope, no red herring, the black boxes also report all voice/radio communications in the cockpit which could give crucial information.

Not quite true. The Black Boxes (actually orange) hold the flight data. What you are referring to are the Cockpit Voice Recorders (CVR). It is very unlikely that the CVRs would survive a fire, and in only a few cases have the CVRs been recovered sufficiently intact to be of any use. The DC10 crash in Antarctica is one case where some data was recovered, but even today there is still arguments over what was actually said.

Inj the case of one of these aircraft the Hijackers broadcast to ATC when they thought that they were only addressing the passengers, so a voice record does exist even without the VCR.

**scumdog** · 13th September 2006, 00:22

Originally Posted by Jantar

Of course not. The aircraft hit the ground just short of the pentagon as shown in this photograph. http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dyn....asp%3Fid=2445

Interesting also that the hole in the pentagon wall was just slightly larger than a 757 fuselage diameter, and that some of the debris had the distinctive Boeing Green primer,m and that the engine parts found (and photographed) matched the 757's that supposedly hit the Pentagon.

Have a look at http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm for more information.

Aw c'mon you fool, you're ruining it all for the conspiracy people, take away that and what do they have????

**Marmoot** · 13th September 2006, 00:30

Originally Posted by bobsmith

Blame The Commies!!!!

Blame The Brits!!!!

Blame The ... [insert Your Choice Of Government And/or Organisation Here]

How come the US government have not seen this? It is outrageous.

Clearly, there were 2 planes being driven unreasonably and crashed.

Must be those damn asian drivers!

**slowpoke** · 13th September 2006, 03:25

Originally Posted by Jantar

Not quite true. The Black Boxes (actually orange) hold the flight data. What you are referring to are the Cockpit Voice Recorders (CVR). It is very unlikely that the CVRs would survive a fire, and in only a few cases have the CVRs been recovered sufficiently intact to be of any use. The DC10 crash in Antarctica is one case where some data was recovered, but even today there is still arguments over what was actually said.

Inj the case of one of these aircraft the Hijackers broadcast to ATC when they thought that they were only addressing the passengers, so a voice record does exist even without the VCR.

Oooops, thanks Jantar. Nothing to do with the thread but in this day and age of must-be-smaller-must-be- better-must be more expensive (paying more for less) I wonder why they separate the two. You'd think any event requiring investigation would find both of these invaluable.

OH MY GOD! Another conspiracy......it's all connected.....we cannot escape....the MATRIX is everywhere!!!!

Fuggin' hell I gotta stop reading this stuff............

**SixPackBack** · 13th September 2006, 06:46

Originally Posted by Jantar

Of course not. The aircraft hit the ground just short of the pentagon as shown in this photograph. http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dyn....asp%3Fid=2445

Interesting also that the hole in the pentagon wall was just slightly larger than a 757 fuselage diameter, and that some of the debris had the distinctive Boeing Green primer,m and that the engine parts found (and photographed) matched the 757's that supposedly hit the Pentagon.

Have a look at http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm for more information.

I am not a person who believes in conspiracy theories, however the alarming lack of wreckage, bodies and damage generaly demands questions be asked.

Granted engine and fuselage parts appear, but we are talking about a loaded airliner with hundreds of people and weighing over a hundred tonnes and the scant remains shown in the official photo's come well short on mass....just where did it go?

**Lou Girardin** · 13th September 2006, 06:56

How could anyone think that Bush and the Neo-cons have the intelligence to plan and carry out a conspiracy? Bush has trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time.
Don't forget that these were the geniuses that were going to catch Bin Laden and bring peace and democracy to Iraq.
Merkins love conspiracys becaue they have trouble with logical thinking.
For example, they think Survivor is entertainment.

**98tls** · 13th September 2006, 07:04

i think the fact that they havent caught bin laden strange myself....am sure if they really wanted to they would have ages ago....

**cowboyz** · 13th September 2006, 07:17

Reading through this thread I find it difficult to seperate peoples opinions from sarcasm. Just to be sure the follow is not sarcasm

I believe

1. There is no way at all anything can hit the 78th story of a building and collaspe the entire building to rumble. If the 60+ floors fell over or in on themselves I could believe that. Explosives brought the twin towers (and WTC7 for that matter which wasn't actually hit by anything) down. Whoever did it couldn't have just blown the building up. The needed a plane to hit them because the outcry would have been 10000 times worse if someone was seen to just walk into the building and blow it up. A plane crashing into it is much more uncontrollable.

2. With all the video survellence around the pentagon the US government should release the tapes of the plane hitting the pentagon. It would clear up so many questions. I don't believe it was a plane at all. There is just not enough evidence to support that theroy.

I had a couple of other points but it is time to get the kids away and head off to do a hard days work.

**Matt Bleck** · 13th September 2006, 07:50

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

I am not a person who believes in conspiracy theories, however the alarming lack of wreckage, bodies and damage generaly demands questions be asked.

Granted engine and fuselage parts appear, but we are talking about a loaded airliner with hundreds of people and weighing over a hundred tonnes and the scant remains shown in the official photo's come well short on mass....just where did it go?

Check out the links in the pages, all but one body was identifid (sp), the pictures taken where minutes after the event, and there are quite a few eyewitness accounts of the plane flying into the penatgon