Woof,woof - Motu in the doghouse.

[Ms Piggy]

He stays with the grump because otherwise he would have to go through the whole mating dance ritual with someone else who might just turn out to be *another* grump, and either way it would take bloody MONTHS before he got any regular sex again.




Yes.




Yes.

Sweet. Thanks for clearing that up for me

[Dr Bob]

How about you cook dinner, stop off at the supermarket deli and buy sixteen things you can't pronounce and then attempt to assemble them on a plate with some baked goods (not a custard slice). And don't forget the wine.

Unless of course you can cook, in which case I would offer you different advice.

[Motu]

I'm the cook in our house,always have been - I enjoy it....selecting cans,tearing the tops off sachets,stirring....aahhh,the stirring,I'm a master at stirring.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Is this really what men think about women?

I mean I think you're being a little tounge & cheek here maybe Deano but, I'd really like to know. Or is it a man secret? I heard a guy at the pub the other night commenting that his partner was a real grump and I wondered why you would bother staying with a grump? I certainly wouldn't stay with a shit head.

That's why I started the thread about "not being allowed to ride" b/c I 'd like to know what people think. I mean are the female population really a bunch of nagging bitches that have unrealistic expectations of what our man should (want to) do for us? Or are men just spineless whimps who always wanna blame their other half for being slack arses?

Anyway Motu now sorry.

I agree with jrandom for most of that....

But. Why do women get very offended at things that guys dont care about? And why do they expect guys to know things that havent been said. Guys grow up in a different world. Guys dont talk about perfect social situations with other guys, so dont get to know what they should be doing when the other half gets offended at something.

Also females tend to show affection (at times)in bursts of about 2 seconds. It doesnt help the process, as the male gets interested and suddenly she's off chatting to someone on the phone again. Its teasing and its not fair. It makes you all look fickle....

Mmm more uninformed ignorance bought to you by PT....

[Ms Piggy]

I agree with jrandom for most of that....

But. Why do women get very offended at things that guys dont care about? And why do they expect guys to know things that havent been said. Guys grow up in a different world. Guys dont talk about perfect social situations with other guys, so dont get to know what they should be doing when the other half gets offended at something.

Also females tend to show affection (at times)in bursts of about 2 seconds. It doesnt help the process, as the male gets interested and suddenly she's off chatting to someone on the phone again. Its teasing and its not fair. It makes you all look fickle....

Mmm more uninformed ignorance bought to you by PT....

Well thanks PT but it's not how I operate, although I get a bit peeved if my b'day was forgotten - not b/c I'm a woman but b/c I've grown up in a household where b'days are important.

I guess there are differences between the male & female population & I kinda assume (incorrectly it seems) that a relationship was about partnership not power.

I just wonder sometimes why some people bother be in a relationship at all, I mean if it's just about sex wouldn't it be cheaper & less stressful to hire someone or just take care of it yourself?

[What?]

....aahhh,the stirring,I'm a master at stirring.

Heh heh...

And in the immortal words of Herman Munster:
"Oooh, golly. There could be trouble over this."

If you don't post tomorrow, we will know what went down.

[Motu]

It's cool at the moment,she's making her own birthday dinner - I'm on fetch and carry.I have a plan for later - I found something in the bottom of a draw that I don't use anymore because it doesn't work,should keep her busy till she figures it out.

I think you nailed it Sea Lily - she comes from a large family that makes a big thing of birthdays,my mother remembered my birthday....but I might find a present on my bed in the morning when I woke up after she had gone to work.We had birthdays,but they were low key.

[dangerous]

I found something in the bottom of a draw that I don't use anymore because it doesn't work,should keep her busy till she figures it out.

[MikeL]

It's cool at the moment,she's making her own birthday dinner - I'm on fetch and carry.I have a plan for later - I found something in the bottom of a draw that I don't use anymore because it doesn't work,should keep her busy till she figures it out.

You must be enjoying this thread immensely, Motu. Keep stirring.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Well thanks PT but it's not how I operate, although I get a bit peeved if my b'day was forgotten - not b/c I'm a woman but b/c I've grown up in a household where b'days are important.

I guess there are differences between the male & female population & I kinda assume (incorrectly it seems) that a relationship was about partnership not power.

I just wonder sometimes why some people bother be in a relationship at all, I mean if it's just about sex wouldn't it be cheaper & less stressful to hire someone or just take care of it yourself?

Yep I'm another of those where bdays arent really that important at all...

Relationships? People cant get a hold of themselves and look at what the relationship ought to be about, it is often about power instead. Unfortunately (?) it is taught from the get-go that competition and self-interest are the way to get ahead (Dont let others see your exam paper, winning is the best way to go, and then theres the entire economic model not to mention the career structure and social pressures regarding money). No wonder its hard to suddenly think partnership when anyone enters a relationship.

Hiring is expensive though, and taking care of it yourself is boring... All physical and no emotion, as well as all controlled by yourself. Also, from a slightly dodgy perspective, its no fun conquering yourself.... There's no challenge....

[pete376403]

It's cool at the moment,she's making her own birthday dinner - I'm on fetch and carry.I have a plan for later - I found something in the bottom of a draw that I don't use anymore because it doesn't work,should keep her busy till she figures it out.

maybe it needs new batteries

[LB]

Well Motu, it's Friday morning, 6.15am, so you're either alive (things went well last night) or you're dead (they didn't).

I am too late to give you any pearls of wisdom, which is just as well because I don't have any!

I'm with CSL - birthdays are important, and I like mine to be remembered. Doesn't have to be anything expensive. This year I have a list a mile long from the Ducati Monster carbon fibre/titanium catalogue. I have subtly yellow-stickied the pages where there's stuff that interests me, and left the catalogue on his side of the bed. There's no prices in the catalogue so he won't have the heart attack till he rings up to find the price. (though he's not stupid, he'll know the cost will be outrageous, and that there'll be a six week shipping delay)

I'm also with CSL in that I wouldn't stay with a shit-head. My marriage vows (this time around) were that we'd stay together as long as we loved each other.

Anyway Motu, hope you're still alive and that the thing from the bottom of the drawer did the trick.

Please let us know.

[KATWYN]

Well I pm'd Moto with what I thought was a helpful suggestion
to get him out of the shit. But he either hasn't got the PM or
my PM has been ignored.

I must've scared him off

[White trash]

I heard a guy at the pub the other night commenting that his partner was a real grump and I wondered why you would bother staying with a grump?

Wasn't me was it?

[Ms Piggy]

Wasn't me was it?

No but it was someone on the same night