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    The drink/driving cop

    has appeared in court. A paramedic said that his actions undoubtedly saved the life of one driver and the Police Assoc has come out in support citing special circumstances.
    It's said that the cop who breath tested him arrived 20 mins after Erwhen (?)
    Isn't that great. Arrive late then start breath testing the people who are helping. It's a wonder he didn't check out the Ambo and Fire drivers too.
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    The most important thing here will be the court's decision. Ultimately the police officer making the arrest was enforcing the law which is his job irrespective of his own opinion of the law. It is the court's responsibility to provide Justice based on Law.
    We must always remember that law does not always equal justice - I believe the officer found drunk acted correctly given the situation but equally that the arresting officer has upheld the law. I'm sure with a reasonable judge that justice will be obtained unless there is too much media interest and the government requires a 'sacrificial lamb'.
    In short - I don't think we can blame either officer here.

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    And its likely he wasn't as pissed as half the drivers on the road, good on the others for coming to his side

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    Bloody madness he got tested, and is in court.
    As I think someone said in another thread a while back, theres probably more behind the scenes, or personalities involved somehow.

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    If the media got a hold of a story that a copper was over the limit in charge of a vehicle and didn't get tested by another copper who was aware of it what do you think the story would have been?
    The media would have spun it to make the police look as bad as possible as usual. We wouldn't have heard the mitigating circumstances and we'd all be writing on this forum about how police watch each other's backs.
    I reckon a decent judge will give us all a pleasant surprise in this case..I'm watching this space with interest.

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    I hope the judge has the balls to use 'special circumstances' and discharge without conviction.
    The breath testing cop better not have an accident himself around Mokau. I'd guess a lot of people would decide they're too drunk to go and help.
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    There is the law of the land and then there are the laws of common decency and commonsense. We can only hope that it is the latter that prevails rather than the former.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    It's said that the cop who breath tested him arrived 20 mins after Erwhen (?)
    Isn't that great. Arrive late then start breath testing the people who are helping. It's a wonder he didn't check out the Ambo and Fire drivers too.
    It may be that the breath test was done after a member of the public complained about the cop smelling of booze. Just a possibility??

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    I thought it was one law for all? Yes there was a special situation in this case but could no-one have driven him to the scene? We must all be responsible for our actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big McJim
    If the media got a hold of a story that a copper was over the limit in charge of a vehicle and didn't get tested by another copper who was aware of it what do you think the story would have been?
    Erm, if he didn't get tested, then how would anyone know he was over the limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey
    Erm, if he didn't get tested, then how would anyone know he was over the limit?
    Good point. What I would like to know is how much over was he? If he blew 401 he's over, but if it was 399 (say) he'd be 'fine', yet his driving would be no different.
    Situation he found himself in was 'damned either way'
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey
    Erm, if he didn't get tested, then how would anyone know he was over the limit?
    Okay - bad choice of words by me - sorry. But you get what I mean - if witnesses could smell the alcohol and saw a policeman turn a blind eye coz it was another policeman there'd by cries of collusion.

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    Saw the news tonight. Said he was 1/3 over? Having heard the circumstances surrounding this case I have sympathy for the Officer. A sole charge position and he was the only close Officer available. If it was me in his position I would probably have answered the call. Hope he gets a fair deal.
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    Seems unfortunate that the Duty guy thought breath testing was the priority, however, the guy had been drinking and driving which was wrong.............tough call I guess...... what would have happened if the guy was not a Police Officer............is the fact that he was a Police Officer irelevant, the issue being the consideration.
    Sorry, just playing Devil's Advocate...........suspect I will get some abuse, however, just throwing it in anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS
    Good point. What I would like to know is how much over was he? If he blew 401 he's over, but if it was 399 (say) he'd be 'fine', yet his driving would be no different.
    Situation he found himself in was 'damned either way'
    His blood level was apparently in the low 100's. The limit is 80.

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