Only in America.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3804381a12,00.html
www.russiantraverse.co.nz
Only in America.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3804381a12,00.html
Easy Biker
After seeing the movie "who killed the electric car?" this is a case of the State fighting back. Cool I reckon because big business in USA is screwing the planet for the rest of us and we can't wait until it is too late.
Cheers
Merv
Anti static spray
why don't they sue the bastard oil co's after all it's their product which is causing the global warming...
hypocritical I know, seeing as it depends on how much I (and you) use as to all the emissions, but hey it's america it's someone elses fault I'm fat, bald, smoke, and am addicted to mcdonalds, (i'm none of those) no farken self responsibility, they all drive round in there ford F50's wondering why the ozone layer is taking a pounding
http://thenc30project.blogspot.com/
Popping wheelies on sj50's since 2003
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Forum whore
If only..........Originally Posted by gamgee
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Fenweasal
Well the only people I can see making any money out of this will be the respective sides lawyers.
It will be interesting to see the actual science that the State's lawyers/experts will be advancing to prove their case.
Hardcore Biker
If I were a car maufacturer, I'd pull all the dealers out of there... Imagine the chaos if they had to get vehicles in from other states....
Just another tosser trying to figure out how to get rich quick.... and of course the lawyers will jump on it, coz it's money for them...
"You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely."
Hardcore Biker
Americans can be complete morons with their litigation. This case will drag on for the next decade, California will spend huge amounts of money in legal costs and will get no result.
All the motor companies need to argue is of the total number of vehicles on the road what percentage are state owned for state services? I would expect 10% at least. Then also I have seen a report that if the US goverment and state governements were to swap their fleets over to electric or alternate power sources would actually reduce the cost of these vehicles to the general public making it a viable alternative, but they wont.
This is no better than sueing the Gun Manufacturers for murders using their weapons, they only make them.
For whom the bell tolls
From craccum magazine -
"The Amazon forrest is being cut down a lot faster than expected, with most of increased speed being from illegal operations. But dont worry, it wont be so funny when you can't breath"
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
Easy Biker
Have any of you seen the movie "An Inconvenient Truth" http://www.climatecrisis.net/ it goes a bit hand in hand with the electric car movie?
Also I saw in the paper the other day that the Antartic Ice is melting even in the winter these days - we could be in deep schtuck pretty quickly.
Cheers
Merv
I blame the Labour Government
also many scientits believe global warming is a load of shit, the earth goes through these changes naturally and is in a cycle, from ice age to warm then back to ice age and the "global warming" is the earth in its natural cycle.
From American dad :
American dads dad: Breaking into a safe is like making love to a woman
American dad: So you just pound on it for two minutes until your done?
Hardcore Biker
You also never hear much in the years when the Ice cap has increased or ozone hole reduced. It only makes the news when the ice is melting and ozone hole has gotten bigger (even though it reduced the year before)
One you don't hear much about is if the Earth's polarity was to change again..........that would really cause instant chaos and take the planet back to the stoneage instantly. The poles have flipped 3 times in the past so nothing to say it wont happen again
Easy Biker
There is a fundamental problem though and that is the earth has never had so many damn people living on it - over 6.5 bil now - less trees than it ever had etc. Wars and famine don't kill us like they used to. This is not a normal cycle any more.
Cheers
Merv
Forum whore
Yes, I'd rank them equally on the scale of "utter garbage".
Try something a little less driven by money and media hype:
http://www.junkscience.com/
Indeed, the sky is falling. Did you know that frozen poles have only been a passing feature of the Earth over the last 4,600,000,000 years?
That's because "instant chaos" and "back to the stoneage instantly" are on the same level of crap as "the sea will engulf us all in 60 years because of global warming". It's utter trite. True, there would be some negative effects, but they are more along the lines of communication and electrical problems during periods of enhanced solar activity (not just all the time) and an (estimated only) 30 fold increase in UV related skin cancers.
How long before this gets joined with the 2 Global Warming threads and gets relegated to P.D. ?
Obviously a reliable source of scientifically founded truths. Do they still print the "ninth legion" on the back page?
Fenweasal
Try something a little less driven by money and media hype:
http://www.junkscience.com/
Yes a good website. You could also try http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/
This site is concerned more about the misuse of statistics, but it does have some articles on the rather dubious claims made abot global warming.
And yet I see that there was some concerned being raised by a group of scientists that sunspot activity seems to be slowing and we may in fact be heading for a cooling period.
To get back to the question in hand, namely pollution caused by CO2 emissions there are a number of arcticles on the Junk Science website which point out the problems concerned with claiming that this is the major cause of global warming.
I'm sorry but I do get a little jaded with Mr Gore's little tirades.
Hardcore Biker
A reversal in the earths polarity can't be compared with the effects of sunspot activity. Sunspot activity results in various types interuptions but over the short term, polar reversal would result in total shutdown of anything electrical. The western world would be the hardest hit, old joe average suburban wouldn't know how to fend for himself or cook without power
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