Dropped it twice.. Why?

[slowpoke]

The slower you go the less gyroscopic effect generated by the wheels and the less stable the bike is. Come to a complete halt with any lean on at all and the bike will just flop over.

[Big Dog]

If you must come to a complete halt (or near to it) go in slow enough you can accelerate right through the move. The bike will turn quickr and be more upright at the end.
Over a crest such as a banked road if I have to do it on an uphill or a load / pillion on I take my outside foot of the peg and hang it down.

Dunno why but it lets me get more lean at lower speed without the drop away.
I tend not to question things that work.

[notme]

This is going to be hard to explain but 5 seconds to demonstrate - but could the prob be that when you stop mid turn, your front wheel is turned to the right (assume right hand turn), and you're leaned over to the right, and your right foot is down or coming down, so the weight is to the right front of the bike - so the front wheel most likely wants to roll backwards....causing the bike to drop more to the right, causing the front wheel to roll backwards more, and so on.

Try holding the front brake when stopped?

All of what has been said above is fine advice, but will all be mucho easier if someone shows you rather than trying to figure it out from what you are reading.

Happy to show you what I mean if you're out my way sometime

[carver]

Yes I dropped my bike twice the same circumstances both times, doing a right hand u turn to a halt. At the point of stopping bike drops to the right instantly. Fall takes me by surprise but am able to protect it from damage. What exactly is happening here? Wisecracks ok but serious answer would be appreciated.. Cheers.. Bombus

you got to plan ahead and balance man....feet out if needed, dont quite go to full lock too

[Indiana_Jones]

Pretty much kinda like buggie said.

If you're going slow, don't lean (like lean hard) because the force of gravity is going to overcome the force of momentum and pull you down.

-Indy

[ManDownUnder]

Don't stop while you're still in the turn (i.e. the bike is still on a lean).

Very last thing - straighten right up. Even if just for a meter.

I do this every morning on the RF (a bitch to lift if you drop it). a 270 degree turn to the left, last second straighten up, stand down and lean the bike onto it.

THEN my feet hit the ground.

If I'm unsure the feet go down earlier of course but I'll do it 3 out of 4.

The last second straight section is vital. It rebalances the bike and you're away. Practice is in a straight line to start with... ride, stop, ride stop... all with your feet on the pegs the whole time.

Another good one is a slow bike race. Get 3 or 4 together and have a race across 25m course. the LAST one to get there wins. No feet down, no doubling back... clutch, throttle, brake and balance is all you have.

Good luck - you'll be sweet

[Indiana_Jones]

Yea, I practice riding real slow and keeping it straight as I can. It's handy practice for when splitting etc.

-Indy

[ManDownUnder]

Yea, I practice riding real slow and keeping it straight as I can. It's handy practice for when splitting etc.

-Indy

Yup... good for "posture" if you know what I mean. You learn how to naturally balance yourself on the machine - and once you have that you can master controlling the bike with your body weight/hips as well as/instead of your arms.

Lots of fun too. You can time yourself and watch your improvement.

[mops]

being a noobie, I found doing u turns hard aswell... generally speaking low speed manuvers are trisky, because the slower the bike is rolling the heavier and harder to control it is... and if the speed drops below certain 'stall' level it just drops to the ground..

i dont mean to steal the thread, but "balance yourself on the machine"....

how does that supposed to be ? as In... i'm a beggining rider and i noticed that iin a corner i can either lean over the front and rest some part of my weight on the handlebars. On the other side I can lean over backwards in the corner and rest no weight on the handlebars... now thats all good, but i dont know which is the right position....

i noticed that alot of weight on the front on bumpy corner = front wheel bumping across the road and feels like sleeping....

in which case i prefer just to put more weight to the rear....

aswell while in turn.. low speed hard turns, i tent to do 'motoX style', as in bike leaner over, but i'm sitting on it pretty straight, sometimes even with my inside foot extended....

but at high speeds... should i lean over with the bike ? counter steer ? hang off the side of the bike and drag my knee over the asphalt ? i suppose combination of all of those + depending what corner and what speed...

[macca]

DON't use the front brake, DO look up at horizon (only way to maintain your balance, period).

Putting on the front brake causes the front suspension to compress , your weight moves further to the right and down you go.

And Practice, with practice, even a right turn you can stop with the back brake, before using the front brake to hold and putting your right foot down.
You'll also find the good 'slow' riders will actually lean out a bit when turning like this, though this is probably an unintentional movement.

[sAsLEX]

Another point.... when going at decent pace backwards do not turn the handle bars as it whips around very fast and catches you unaware.


Did it on the bike and pulled a muscle holding it up.

Did it in the truck and nearly rolled it.

Old car was fine as it was low and handled like a go cart.

[sinned]

SVs are a bit of a handful at low speed. I am riding a loan SV650 while my SV1000 gets fixed at 1000ks?? The 1000 is a beast compared with the 650 but with either you sure don't want it it stall at low speed - use the clutch and more than idle revs to maintain momentum, don't let the clutch right out, hover on the rear brake and keep your hand away from the front brake. I have spent a few hours practicing low speed turns, stops and starts in a car park after dropping the SV1000 doing a right hand U turn takeoff downhill - don't try that, it is expensive. Sound advice in another post to not stop until straight; which means planning every stop.

Fuck what do I know! I dropped it.