To Fight the Hordes,Singing and Crying

**Motu** · 18th February 2004, 16:18

We haven't done any Asian bashing for awhile - let's get into it!

We have been thinking that my Chinese worker has an eyesight problem lately - when we get him to check brake lights,he has to look at each one individualy...not just stomp on the pedal and,yep they all go,no,he looks at every tail light,then every stop light.On something like a Diamante with 7 brake lights he's completly lost,he can't see if one is out or not.We just have to keep an eye on him.

But last night I was talking with someone not from NZ - their country has done a survey and found that Asians are lacking in periphrial vision....hmmmm.Could this be why they don't seem to know what's going on around them? why they have so much trouble at intersections and roundabouts?

I'm not Asian bashing here - I'm just genuinely interested in finding out why they are such useless fucking drivers.

**Motoracer** · 18th February 2004, 16:59

The crapy asian drivers you see here have never driven cars in their life and/or they have to drive on the other side of the road compaird to back home. These Asians are the new immgrants or newly arrived students with no driving experience on the conditions we have here.

They come here, a bit overwhelming at first but eventually they get used to it. There will be tons of great Asian drivers out there who are brought up in NZ or they have been here for a while and got the hang of driving around in NZ. Why are they great and not just good? Well, for a lot of them, they have to be extra nice or extra careful just so that they don't tick off your types or attract unwanted attention.

As far as them being crappy drivers cause of what the survay says well thats a whole lotta B.S. IMHO

**MikeL** · 18th February 2004, 19:06

I think I'll keep out of this one.
Have fun, guys...

**Hitcher** · 18th February 2004, 20:27

Geez Louise... Just when I thought it was safe to go back in the water!!

**MadDuck** · 18th February 2004, 20:39

So I guess you have to ask the question...you come up to a round about on the bike. You see a gap...cos there is always a gap god dammit!

What would you rather encounter? An asian going at .05km an hour, a 4x4 female with kids on board sign (eeeekkkk - I am invincible),an american on a visitors licence (right or left dammit), a 60+ ole lady in a subaru justi (just got my glasses fixed), or a boy racer.... got me beat!!!!
Sorry may be getting off track but damn there so many hazards to watch for not just the asian folks

**Zed** · 18th February 2004, 21:09

Originally Posted by Motu

We haven't done any Asian bashing for awhile - let's get into it!

We have been thinking that my Chinese worker has an eyesight problem lately - when we get him to check brake lights,he has to look at each one individualy...not just stomp on the pedal and,yep they all go,no,he looks at every tail light,then every stop light.On something like a Diamante with 7 brake lights he's completly lost,he can't see if one is out or not.We just have to keep an eye on him.

But last night I was talking with someone not from NZ - their country has done a survey and found that Asians are lacking in periphrial vision....hmmmm.Could this be why they don't seem to know what's going on around them? why they have so much trouble at intersections and roundabouts?

I'm not Asian bashing here - I'm just genuinely interested in finding out why they are such useless fucking drivers.

I've heard that most of them havn't needed to drive a cage in their country of origin before...apparently they are awesome cyclists & motorcyclists though!?

If there are any Asian KiwiBikers on this forum maybe you could confirm whether these things are so or not? (I'm sure you'll confirm the part about being awesome bikers!)

Zed

**Zed** · 18th February 2004, 21:13

Originally Posted by MadDuck

So I guess you have to ask the question...you come up to a round about on the bike. You see a gap...cos there is always a gap god dammit!

What would you rather encounter? An asian going at .05km an hour, a 4x4 female with kids on board sign (eeeekkkk - I am invincible),an american on a visitors licence (right or left dammit), a 60+ ole lady in a subaru justi (just got my glasses fixed), or a boy racer.... got me beat!!!!
Sorry may be getting off track but damn there so many hazards to watch for not just the asian folks

So MadDuck dude, you never answered what YOU would rather encounter??

BTW, you left out one other hazard- another biker who takes "your" gap!

Zed

**MadDuck** · 18th February 2004, 21:21

Simple answer Zed. Another biker has respect for other bikers ...take my gap and I kick your butt

PS: I am not a dude !!!! But thanks for asking

**Zed** · 18th February 2004, 21:43

Originally Posted by MadDuck

Simple answer Zed. Another biker has respect for other bikers ...take my gap and I kick your butt

PS: I am not a dude !!!! But thanks for asking

Don't take that biker respect thing for granted...I said that about the bikers because they/we too can be a threat to one another out there.

Um the dude thing...well "dudess" just doesn't have the same ring to it. It's like saying "have a great night guys" meaning both sexes, you know what I mean wo-man?

Zed

**MadDuck** · 18th February 2004, 21:45

My honest opinion.....I would hate to meet a YOUNG biker with shit for brains thinks that faster is better. Faster is not always better - look for me cos I dont suffer fools very well

**MadDuck** · 18th February 2004, 21:59

ummm sorry off track

**matthewt** · 19th February 2004, 09:53

I lived in Asia for nearly 3 years and the population was 80% Chinese. I would say a VERY large portion of the Chinese wore glasses or had some sight issues. I was watching a doco on it over there and they mentioned that the chinese have a slightly different shape of the skull which can put stress on the optic nerve and this leads to a high percentage of sight problems. The other 20% of the population (Malaysian and Indians) had a much lower rate of people wearing glasses.

**jrandom** · 19th February 2004, 10:13

Originally Posted by MadDuck

What would you rather encounter? An asian going at .05km an hour, a 4x4 female with kids on board sign (eeeekkkk - I am invincible),an american on a visitors licence (right or left dammit), a 60+ ole lady in a subaru justi (just got my glasses fixed), or a boy racer.... got me beat!!!!

I'll take the boy racer, thanks.

Funnily enough, in my experience, BR types are almost *always* courteous to me on the bike, moving over as I come up alongside in traffic, etc. Never had one of them 'accidentally' pull over in front while filtering, either. I do suspect they tend to keep a sharper eye out than other car drivers, if only because of their eyeballs being in continuous PlodScan mode.

btw - Motu - glad you're staying with my lyrical thread title theme... so much more cultured, innit?

**Coldkiwi** · 19th February 2004, 11:44

yeah, at least the Boyracers are at least looking, Even if it is to scope you out to assess whether they think they can beat you down the road. Most people aren't malicious enough to try and hit us off so you're better up next to someone who knows ya there.

**Hitcher** · 19th February 2004, 16:51

Originally Posted by MadDuck

So I guess you have to ask the question...you come up to a round about on the bike. You see a gap...cos there is always a gap god dammit!

What would you rather encounter? An asian going at .05km an hour, a 4x4 female with kids on board sign (eeeekkkk - I am invincible),an american on a visitors licence (right or left dammit), a 60+ ole lady in a subaru justi (just got my glasses fixed), or a boy racer.... got me beat!!!!
Sorry may be getting off track but damn there so many hazards to watch for not just the asian folks

Hitcher's third commandment: "Beware of cagers who wear hats!"