You go colour blind at 40kph?Originally Posted by R6_kid
at the speeds i was going i only saw black and white so unfortunately i have to say the bike was an off shade of grey
Scotsman on a German
You go colour blind at 40kph?at the speeds i was going i only saw black and white so unfortunately i have to say the bike was an off shade of grey
In space, no one can smell your fart.
Hardcore Biker
After 3 years on the CBR, I've definitely mastered it, but I still love it, and it's more than enough performance for the road, and the suspension is so soft that it just soaks up all the imperfections, great for road, not so great for race track.
I'm selling up my CBR250's soon, cause I owe dad heaps for the CBR600 race bike I got. It's going to be a little while before I'm riding the CBR600 to it's full potential. When you know you are riding a bike to it's potential that is probably one of the best feelings, and you can do it on the 250 without putting yourself in too much danger. The 600 is thoroughly scary to push the limits on.
For whom the bell tolls
Thats what helped me enjoy the 250 i think. Im at the point now where i am comfortable on the 600, my 250 skills are well rusty compared to where you are at on yours, im not sure if i was quite that fast back in the day on my 250, but being on the 250 you can ride that bit faster without worrying about rear wheel slides or any of the 'big bike' stuff. It's just pure riding - you, the bike, and the road (environment).
It's kinda like going back to basics... gah... trademe is your worst enemy when there is something you want but cant have!
haha, i'll race you fool! silly old man!You go colour blind at 40kph?
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
grounded
I've been well impressed by the old CBR/ZXR mini-sports bikes. Not had the chance to actually ride one yet - anyone keen to offer?
The 250's seem to have several levels:
Lvl 1: Ginny
Lvl 2: Mid-way twins and IL-4's
Lvl 3: ZXR/CBR
Lvl 4: Two-smokers
Have even had a moment of weakness and thought that I should "upgrade" to one in celebration for getting my restricted. The fear of binning a faired bike is now becoming more remote. But then again, would I hold onto it after I get my full - not likely. Gimme a 6 hundy!
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
- Dr. Suess
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Level 5: tuned 2-strokers
For whom the bell tolls
Lvl 0: crashed bikes, incl. tuned 2-strokers!
haha.
I reckon the best approach is what i said... small steps. Progress at your learning rate, not at your mates or whoever you ride with, though generally if two of you have similar skill you will most likely help each other ride 'better'.
I went '76 Vespa Super 150, 1986 Suzuki GF250, 1987 Suzuki GF250, 1989 Kawasaki ZXR250A, 1999 Yamaha R6.
From learners to full i ended up taking just over 3 years, and it wasnt til i'd been riding for two years that i got my ZXR. The smartest thing i did along the way was get onto the RRRS course within 2 days of having my first GF250 (which initially scared the shit out of me) and learnt counter-steering, emergency braking. Then it was through lots of commuting, open road riding and a couple of group rides that i built up confidence, skill and a bit of pace.
Then the ZXR came along, and again i was a bit surprised with the power. Got in with a good group of people at my level of skill and we all sort of learnt to ride together on SH16, Scenic Drive and Coromandel Loop... the best thing was switching places and seeing each others weaknesses, talking about it and actively trying to improve little things in our riding. This resulted in about 5 of us being 'quick' on our 250's and generally scaring the 'big bike' riders and putting them in their places! Also without any of us involved in accidents or getting injured.
Stepping up to a more powerful bike can be quite a learning curve. The good thing with the 250's is that the only bracket that widens greatly between bikes is the power output, and to some extent the handing depending on the type of bike (eg tourer/cruiser/sports). That is, you can switch between say a GSF250 bandit and a ZXR250 and not be 'out of your league', although from GN250 to a ZXR250 is crossing many different barriers and widening many variables which lead to a 'jump' and a difficult learning curve.
It isn't impossible to start out on a ZXR/CBR/whatever high powered 250 and not crash. It all comes down to how you limit yourself, knowing your limits, and learning at your own pace. Crashing only become inevitable when you start to push your limits too much too soon, and when you dont take environmental factors (road surface etc) into account.
There is a whole debate as to natural skill etc but i cannot be bothered entering into that in this thread other than saying that those that try too hard too soon without natural skill become part of natural selection!
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
Hardcore Biker
wonderfull post my romeo loving friend (top movie) but yeah everything you said was so true and reading it made me appreciate having a licence and a bike that i do love dearly,250's should never be underestimated or respected its the start to any great biker and the start to any great line of bikes (cbr rr's zxr etc) fuck the companys for not making fast new ones these days the glory days of early 90's are over but we are lucky we still have the tail end of em and they are still available to buy.. see a few posts here bout the nsr and shit so just wanna say HOW I convinced my mate to ditch the cage and buy a bike so hes gone an gotten a nsr and getn his learners the same day,,,,hes never ridden a bike and hes goin all out for one im so proud hhah u guys reckon hell be alright on that widowmaker??? im worried for him but hell figure it out im sure hahah i took it for a ride n shat myself n ive got a bit more experiance than him and still a fairly fAST cbr,,,nyhu yeah look out for us at the rides good to see more and more people to the ranks all the time !!! ny shore riders keen for a ride u????more than i hate death itself,,,all montegues.....
Hardcore Biker
i started on a gn250 and yeah big learning curve from that to the cbr but its worthit cause you get alot sussed on the way all your braking and countersteering for example,ohhh wanna go riding now and get my skills,,,chicks only like guys that got skills gosh!!!nunchuck skillsssss bow staff skillssssss motorbike riding skillsssss
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HITCHER!!!
Scotsman on a German
What for? I can't get over 30kph!
In space, no one can smell your fart.
Pretengineer
haha yep you sure can get that 250 of your moving!!!
Are you coming to the free vicclub track day at manfeild??
I'll be test riding mikeys 600 there. Dif dif...
braaap
saw a turquoise zxr around greenlane on friday last week .... and a grn/blue/wh at ellerslie this morning, seems like they are popping up all over the place lately
He who makes a beast out of himself
Gets rid of the pain of being a man
I blame the Labour Government
I went from an rg150 (which i love) to a zxr400sp. which is a good step up, for me, and not much of a step up from a zxr250 which my mate had and I rode quite a bit. But the 400 feels much nicer to ride than the 250 and still no worries about smokiin the rear tyre while giving it the beans and has the same handling capablities as a 250, a good option I think for people who like the 250cc but want more power. In an article that i read it compared the zxr400 to the apprillia rs250 and the gsx600f and was almost on par with the aprillia in terms of handling and breaking. Must say it is a fun bike to ride and all the previous owners are sad to see it go.
From American dad :
American dads dad: Breaking into a safe is like making love to a woman
American dad: So you just pound on it for two minutes until your done?
For whom the bell tolls
umm incase you didnt know, Aprillia has a 2006 RS125 which would be putting out similar power to those older 250's... its rated as the 3rd best handling bike every, looks like a 600 with aprillia RSVR styling, the only let down is the $9995 price tag and price of replacement parts.
http://www.maxmoto.co.uk/aprilia_rs125_2006.shtml
Im guessing it wouldnt take too much work to mod one of the later model RS250 engines into the frame.
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
Forum whore
That sounds interesting. When might that be released?
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