Sorry chaps, there is no room in $11.5 billion for a cut

[sAsLEX]

11.5 billion runs Social Welfare for 12 weeks.

And that sir is one of our major problems.

[ManDownUnder]

Quick, while it is fresh in your mind object.

See this post

Last day today

done
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To whom it may concern.

I’ve just had the pleasure of parting with $166.50 +GST in ACC levies on my 900cc motorcycle. The basis for that princely sum is clearly based on the classification of motor vehicle.

I submit that’s a poor choice of payment basis as it ignores
• the total amount of time the vehicle spends on the road
• the distance covered during the registered period
• my age
• my gender
• class of licences held
• length of time I’ve had a licence
• my accident history

I recognise it’s impractical to take all those variables into consideration every time a vehicle is registered so I submit my support for a flat tax, added to fuel or road user charges - option 4. 100% of the required funding is levied in petrol levy

Consolidating all classes into one will also reduce the administration costs, and enforce automatic compliance of the ACC levy payment. It would also keep with the “No Fault” philosophy of ACC, which is being frustrated through its present rating bias.

I appreciate your time in considering this email.
Regards
Nigel

[ManDownUnder]

11.5 billion runs Social Welfare for 12 weeks.

Pardon me? Are you sure? (I have no facts to argue against it - I'm simply stunned at the number!)

1 Billion... per week!

I'm personally paying $250/week to the benefit?????? My household is paying $1,250/week to THE BENEFIT???

Please telling me you're shitting me...

[avgas]

Friend was telling me that back in Nirobi the government embessels (sp :P im on drugs right now) millions.....we must be really advanced society here if the government takes billions

[sAsLEX]

Please telling me you're shitting me...

No need to paint your bike mate your already flying Labour colours!

[The_Dover]

where do I sign up for this benefit lark?

working for a living doesn't seem to make much sense.

[thehollowmen]

Have you noticed that the more money that gets spent on "social services" the wider the gap between the rich and poor gets?????

Yes, the people in the middle who end up paying for the poor get dragged down to their level.

[ManDownUnder]

No need to paint your bike mate your already flying Labour colours!

LOL but the essential difference is that my bike doesn't arse rape me at every turn

[WRT]

Pardon me? Are you sure? (I have no facts to argue against it - I'm simply stunned at the number!)

1 Billion... per week!

I have no figures on this either, but based on Jim's allegation, that would mean around $240 for each man, woman and child in NZ per week paid out in benefits. Surely that cant be right?

Even if as many as half the people in NZ were on the benefit, then they would be getting an average of ~$480 each per week! Sorry Jim2, but I got to call your bluff on that one.

Or am I adding this up all wrong?

[Finn]

11.5 Billion isn't enough to prevent us ending up like Nth Korea in about a week.

Been down Queen St lately?

[thehollowmen]

I have no figures on this either, but based on Jim's allegation, that would mean around $240 for each man, woman and child in NZ per week paid out in benefits. Surely that cant be right?

I wouldn't be surprised. Social services cover things like health too don't they? and things like surgery run in to thousands of dollars.

Plus you've got the running cost of social services agencies...

But between the DPB, invalids benifit, students (allowance mostly) ... that does come to a lot.

[Finn]

working for a living doesn't seem to make much sense.

That's probably the only thing you and your boss agree on.

[The_Dover]

That's probably the only thing you and your boss agree on.

Get fucked.

He also agrees that Hondas are for faggots.

[WRT]

I wouldn't be surprised. Social services cover things like health too don't they? and things like surgery run in to thousands of dollars.

Plus you've got the running cost of social services agencies...

But between the DPB, invalids benifit, students (allowance mostly) ... that does come to a lot.

Ok, could kind of understand it if you include all the additional services as well, and are not just talking benefits. Fair call, sorry Jim2!

PS - A billion a week? Faaaark . . .

[thehollowmen]

Ok, could kind of understand it if you include all the additional services as well, and are not just talking benefits. Fair call, sorry Jim2!

And CYPS ... maybe OSH too... And the cost of running these departments... how many hundreds of employees does WINZ have alone?
plenty of departments actually are considered social services