Sorry chaps, there is no room in $11.5 billion for a cut

[Swoop]

My over-simplified brain agrees with my calculator... and cannot make sense of 11.5Billion divided by 4 Million (too many zeros... just like the beehive really...)

Remember that cunt cullen is playing with OUR money!

[sanchez]

My over-simplified brain agrees with my calculator... and cannot make sense of 11.5Billion divided by 4 Million (too many zeros... just like the beehive really...)

Remember that cunt cullen is playing with OUR money!

I get $2875 each?

[SARGE]

My over-simplified brain agrees with my calculator... and cannot make sense of 11.5Billion divided by 4 Million (too many zeros... just like the beehive really...)

Remember that cunt cullen is playing with OUR money!

must be all the 111 kph speeding fines ...

[doc]

ObviouslY enough to not realise there's no GST on private property sales.

Aren't some of these buyers GST registered so they claim the bit back on initial purchase then with inflation govt gets bigger bit of their risk when they decide to sell..

[slimjim]

well the "Man" has said No Tax Cut's, on thee new's this morning,

[ManDownUnder]

well the "Man" has said No Tax Cut's, on thee new's this morning,

LOL or atleast no confirmation of them Aril 2008.

Hey - as a thought - isn't that election year? How about we call the Govt's bluff and tell them to delay it a year?

[badmofo]

Who gives a shit about tax cuts? put the money into infrastructure so the country doesn't fall apart. Education, hospitals, roads, fire service, police, fuck, I could go on all day, I don't give a shit about getting an extra few bucks a week or whatever from a tax cut as long as the basic services get better funding.

I went into A&E cos I thought my leg was broken after a crash and they looked at me like a was a piece of shit on the floor and said "have you been to see your doctor" I nearly slapped the bitch, it was 8pm and I couldn't walk, so I said "I was under the impression that A&E stood for accident and emergency, this is both of those things", but I realised it wasn't her fault, they've just got fuck all funding and one doctor trying to look after everyone.

[The Pastor]

11.5 billion is only about 3 grand each. Thats not alot of dosh per person really.

Far better to move like auzzie and pay of our debts. Then we can start to act like a 1st world country.

Btw, whats a 2nd world country? we have 1st and 3rd but no second?

[ManDownUnder]

put the money into infrastructure so the country doesn't fall apart. Education, hospitals, roads, fire service, police, fuck, I could go on all day, I don't give a shit about getting an extra few bucks a week or whatever from a tax cut as long as the basic services get better funding.

Agreed 100%. I understand that's about 8 Billion accounted for, 3.5 to go.

So - the age old question - what's the best use? Encourage growth, give some back, or both?

[paturoa]

11.5 billion is only about 3 grand each. Thats not alot of dosh per person really.

There isn't much point in letting my 7 year old keep an extra $3000 of the money he earnt!

You should recalculate that by dividing by the number of people that pay tax from real jobs (ie exclude tax on pension) and you'll get a different number.

[Winston001]

Chaps and chapesses - calm down now. Here are a few facts:

The Government's total income (2005) was $51 billion. The spending on social services was $8 billion but may very well now be $11 billion - per year. Of that, approximately half goes to old folks - National Superannuation.

The $11 billion surplus is real enough but doesn't exist in a bank account. Instead it is represented by Crown assets such as the army LAVs, new hospital buildings etc. It is already spent.

While I don't like Labour, I have a grudging respect for Cullen. He is doing what households are not doing - building up a savings account for a rainy day. And trust me, it will arrive.

[paturoa]

While I don't like Labour

me too!

I have a grudging respect for Cullen.

not me, he pushes "politics of envy" which I consider in the same bracket as racist politics. Would you like me to find a few quotes?

He is doing what households are not doing - building up a savings account for a rainy day. And trust me, it will arrive.

Yes, but it is a self fulfilling arguement if you are over taxed in the first place.

A few years back 90 some % of us voted against compulsory retirement savings, (was in the end an anti-winston vote (not a dig at you Winston!)) well aren't we all real happy now - NOT.

I do not believe that I will get my due share when the rainy day arrives, for 2 reasons 1) some pollie bastard will fark it up between now and then and 2) because of 1) I'm organising myself, which means that my contribution will be given to someone else.

How this occurs to me is that I work my arse off and it gets given to others who don't (and yes that is a generalisation with worthy exceptions)

[carver]

Why isnt the money beeing given back to people who fucken deserve it and not prisons and dole bludgers!!!!!!

typical...a nice middle of the road post from you....something which wont be something too technical or offensive.
you complain, but dont do anything about it.
may i ask who you voted for in the last elections?
you live your quiet lives, just accepting that being shafted is part of the deal, then moan about if
FOR FUCKS SAKE DO SOMETHING!!!!
read oldriders signature for an alternitave to our current system.
why should money be re-distributed at all?

[Sniper]

typical...a nice middle of the road post from you....something which wont be something too technical or offensive.
you complain, but dont do anything about it.
may i ask who you voted for in the last elections?
you live your quiet lives, just accepting that being shafted is part of the deal, then moan about if
FOR FUCKS SAKE DO SOMETHING!!!!
read oldriders signature for an alternitave to our current system.
why should money be re-distributed at all?

Ok, middle road post aye....

WTF can you do about it apart from write letter saying how dissapointed you are or vote for another party, WTF do you think that will do. Suddenly make MR Clarke change her mind about everything? How about staging a coup? Cant do that cause quite a few NZ'ers are opposed to being violent as well as talking big but running fast once the going gets tough. (Maybe I shouldnt say running, NZ does has a problem with obesity)

Tell me Mr Carver, what would you do?

BTW, I cant remember who I voted for cause I just ticked boxes. No matter what we were fucked.

I will complain when I feel like it, but in all honesty, I dont fucken care. I have my Fiance, a roof over our heads and a damn beautiful country I can jump on a bike or in the car and go see. Politics are way over my head.

[u4ea]

typical...a nice middle of the road post from you....something which wont be something too technical or offensive.
you complain, but dont do anything about it.
may i ask who you voted for in the last elections?
you live your quiet lives, just accepting that being shafted is part of the deal, then moan about if
FOR FUCKS SAKE DO SOMETHING!!!!
read oldriders signature for an alternitave to our current system.
why should money be re-distributed at all?

maybe if the government put out referendems and let us have our say(very little faith in overpaid mps lining their own pockets)then there would be less moaning!!!!the government makes decisions and rarely hears what new zealanders are saying....unless youre of a certain race of course.....
and as far as doing something about it......pulling head out of farken arse is a good start