Sorry chaps, there is no room in $11.5 billion for a cut

**James Deuce** · 11th October 2006, 15:57

Originally Posted by Finn

Been down Queen St lately?

You're thinking South Korea. That would be brilliant but our standard of living will never be that high.

**James Deuce** · 11th October 2006, 16:01

Oops. I meant Social Services. Sorry.

**sanchez** · 11th October 2006, 16:39

Who's betting that a few months out of the next election they drop all 11 billion on a killer combination of tax cuts to gut anything national has to whine about, and a large increase in health spending.

**James Deuce** · 11th October 2006, 16:42

They better not. We need to be saving like buggery for when the oil runs out. We need 50 year plans, not freaking 3 year ones.

**Finn** · 11th October 2006, 17:08

This ain't about tax cuts, this is about over taxing! They've been robbing us blind and as usual, we have nothing to show for it.

Meanwhile 650 people leave NZ every fucking week. I don't blame them. I would if I could and will when I can.

**Lou Girardin** · 11th October 2006, 17:16

Spend the surplus on the unhealth system, roading, various other neglected services. Then keep those services funded properly.

**Finn** · 11th October 2006, 17:28

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Spend the surplus on the unhealth system, roading, various other neglected services. Then keep those services funded properly.

I agree but unfortunately there's no competence in Government. They'd spend it for sure, on consultants, trips overseas and a pile of administration.

**WINJA** · 11th October 2006, 17:30

These Government Types Are Scum , I Think For A Start Any Money Overspent In An Election Must Be Deducted From Your Next Election Spending , Thatll Stop Them Real Fast And Give Them A Sense Of Fairness And Then Perhaps Theyll Give Us A Tax Cut , What I Cant Believe Is The Amount Of Overseas Aid We Give To Samoa Tonga And Tokelau Etc , We Should Stop Proping Up Those Countries To The Tune Of $500,000,000 A Year And Let Them Either Think Fast Or Starve

**doc** · 11th October 2006, 17:32

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

but beneficiaries pay tax on what they are given?

Never understand that......I am paid out of tax money and then get taxed on that weird.

What is the point of giving some one something and then taking some of it back sort of like GST on Rates a tax on a tax

Saw something recently that said

Tax is a fine for doing well
A fine is a tax for doing wrong

GST is the most insidious tax they ever dreamed up its worse than cancer

We need a revolution

**doc** · 11th October 2006, 17:47

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

So one is better to shit money down the drain renting?!

Thats part of the problem you get people into home ownership you then have control of them (talkin about the masses here not FINN) You get the Bank Manager holding you by the balls you don't spit the dummy and head over the ditch when you prefered Govt gets the boot every few years. But its stabilises things a bit, but everyone is now into buying a rental which is speculation which the fuckers are looking at taxing again anyway plus the increase they get out of Gst when they sell. Fuck the "wild puke boy" is heading south join the Revolution...fuck how much have I been drinkin

**u4ea** · 11th October 2006, 18:05

Originally Posted by Finn

This ain't about tax cuts, this is about over taxing! They've been robbing us blind and as usual, we have nothing to show for it.

Meanwhile 650 people leave NZ every fucking week. I don't blame them. I would if I could and will when I can.

thats my thoughts excactly,i could go,if i sold my house that i worked bloody hard for, but cant work yet and have animals too old to make the move.......
acc doesnt give families the full family assistance and with 80% of an income its a pretty cutthroat existance here.......
they want me to save......hell i can hardly afford the dialup!!!!!!!!(need the insanity of kb to keep me sane........

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**paturoa** · 11th October 2006, 18:10

Originally Posted by doc

.... but everyone is now into buying a rental which is speculation which the fuckers are looking at taxing again anyway plus the increase they get out of Gst when they sell.

NOTE OF CAUTION - dont forget the anti smoking leglisalation, I don't recall the exact sequence but it went something like.

- half a resturant (sp?)
- work places
- the other half or resturants
- pubs
- RSAs

the next step is open public spaces

where is this going ???

Earlier this year our friendly taxation specailists (aka Labour Party) got the first capital gains tax started on off shore share market.

**Lou Girardin** · 11th October 2006, 19:57

Originally Posted by doc

but everyone is now into buying a rental which is speculation which the fuckers are looking at taxing again anyway plus the increase they get out of Gst when they sell. fuck how much have I been drinkin[/SIZE][/FONT]

ObviouslY enough to not realise there's no GST on private property sales.

**LaggCity** · 11th October 2006, 21:21

Originally Posted by paturoa

From NZ Harold - > Finance Minister Michael Cullen has announced a record surplus, but says he will not know until the end of the year whether he has enough cash for tax cuts.

WTF 11.5 billion SURPLUS. Its too big for my calculator, thats about 32 million per day!!!!

Whats the bet it get positioned as an election bribe to be given to people who didn't earn it in the first place.

Have you noticed that the more money that gets spent on "social services" the wider the gap between the rich and poor gets?????

I would like to give the Minister a cut ,,,,,,,,one from ear to ear