Bike vs red-light runner

[Postie]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...55158337688873

thankfully the biker seems ok, but this could be anywhere in Auckland at the moment.

Its an American clip which is obvious, since its too expensive to put life saving cameras at junctions in Auckland.


What will they do with all those millions we pay in tax??????

[slimjim]

fuck i'lled pull out thee smith and western, then phone the cop's

[Wasp]

pity it wasnt a bus or a truck....

[Jonathan]

pity it wasnt a bus or a truck....

You want the dude on the bike to die?

[Jonathan]

Oh, I get it, the bike. Damn I'm dumb!

[Wasp]

yea... don't worry im not anti biker

[Whynot]

Oh, I get it, the bike. Damn I'm dumb!

you said it .....

[Street Gerbil]

From my experience in USA, the red light camera is a lifesaver only for those whose life depends on revenue from it. It causes more harm than good. The study conducted by US DOT shows the red light cameras increase the likelihood of an accident by forcing people to brake abruptly to avoid the ticket. You can always detect a red light runner when you are entering the intersection and you are supposed to watch for traffic green light or not. But what exactly your options are if you are being rear ended and thrown right into the intersection?

Here is another study from USA.

[vifferman]

...this could be anywhere in Auckland at the moment.

Its an American clip which is obvious, since its too expensive to put life saving cameras at junctions in Auckland.


What will they do with all those millions we pay in tax??????

Actually, they're talking about resurrecting redlight cameras soon, and asking for submissions on the idea.

I sent an email in saying that if they installed red-light road spikes instead, that popped up out of the road after the light went red, they'd very quickly stop people running the lights. Or jumping the green light.

[Animal]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...55158337688873

thankfully the biker seems ok, but this could be anywhere in Auckland at the moment.

Its an American clip which is obvious, since its too expensive to put life saving cameras at junctions in Auckland.


What will they do with all those millions we pay in tax??????

Nah, Postie. That would cost money, and we all know The Government's agenda is to MAKE money, not spend the stuff.

[placidfemme]

Nah, Postie. That would cost money, and we all know The Government's agenda is to MAKE money, not spend the stuff.

besides they only have $11.5 BILLION left over... after illegal spending... theres not enough to spend on cameras to make the public safer...

[acewheelie]

They are going to install some, it was on the news last week? I'm not sure if its being funded by the Government or the Council.

[Postie]

i read about the possible installation of red light cameras i Auckland, it still looks like a maybe though. I don't see what is so hard, money is not really the issue considering ....."it would take only 62 hours at one intersection to pay for the trial"
Below is the extract from the weekend herald.




Running red lights - it's a deadly national pastime, and Auckland drivers appear among the most oblivious to the human destruction it causes.

In one hour on Thursday afternoon, before the homeward rush, the Weekend Herald counted 43 red-light runners at a single central Auckland intersection.

That meant red lights were ignored at almost every second phase change at the intersection of Symonds St, Karangahape Rd, Grafton Bridge and the adjoining motorway on-ramp.

Two of the offending vehicles were buses, one was a taxi, and two were cyclists.

Eight other buses - and a hospital-bound ambulance without its siren on - entered the intersection on amber lights which changed to red before they got clear.

Motorists and pedestrians waiting for the green light may have been less eager to cross had they known only five out of 92 phase changes in the hour would be free of opposing traffic entering the intersection on at least an amber signal.

There were no collisions, and only one close call, between two speeding cars after they cleared the intersection and were veering left to reach the motorway.

The intersection is one of seven in Auckland City to have claimed a life in the past five years - a pedestrian in 2003 - and is ranked the worst for the social cost of death and injuries caused there. That is estimated at $4.2 million over five years.

Land Transport NZ says there were 427 injury-causing crashes at Auckland City intersections between 2001 and last year. Five of these caused the deaths of vehicle occupants, and two killed pedestrians. Sixty-five of the injuries were serious.

The cost of 135 red-light crashes in central Auckland alone is put at $63.9 million. All but one of the deaths occurred in the past three years, when there were 275 injury-causing crashes at red lights in Auckland City - 42 per cent of New Zealand's red-light injury smashes.

The police have attended a further 50 in Auckland City this year, of which nine resulted in serious injuries.

The scale of the problem has prompted police and city council officials to support an Auckland Regional Transport Authority application to the Government to subsidise a three-year trial of red-light cameras, at a cost of $400,000.

The Land Transport NZ board is expected to consider the application within weeks, although it is likely to take several more months to set up the trial of two or more digital cameras, to be used at the city's 11 worst intersections.

Officials deny planning a revenue-grab, but a single camera in action during the Herald's survey could have raised $6450 if every offender was fined the standard $150.

At that rate, it would take only 62 hours at one intersection to pay for the trial.

The Herald began its survey at 2.30pm on Thursday, and within two minutes a station wagon travelling from Grafton Bridge towards Karangahape Rd was driven through a red light. A minute later, a car sped from the other direction through a red light to the bridge.

On the next signal change, two cars ran one after the other through the red phase from the bridge.

Two minutes went by with only amber infringements - which police do not regard as serious enough to warrant a fine - before two drivers apparently did not see red at 2.37pm. One minute later, another ran the light.

At 2.41pm, a tour bus went south along Symonds St through a red signal, at 2.42pm an Alfa Romeo car ran the light in its rush to the motorway, and at 2.43pm a 4WD crashed the red behind two cars which had left the bridge on the amber.

The low point of the hour came in the three minutes from 3.10pm, when four cars, a bus and a bicycle were driven through the red.

[KLOWN]

I was almost taken out by someone running a red light, and it wasn't an amber to red affair. We had green, TWO cars had gone through on the green before me then as I was going through a car on my right locked up his breaks and skidded into the intersection. He stopped just before reaching me, I carried on my but looked back at the light to make sure I had the green, which I did, but what amazed me the most was he continued through the intersecton like the light weren't even there. (he was still on red when he continued through)

[Street Gerbil]

as I was going through a car on my right locked up his breaks and skidded into the intersection

Unfortunately no camera (unless paired with an anti-tank missile launcher) can help in this situation.