So Labour sets up a 0900 number ...

**Magua** · 13th October 2006, 16:47

They stole, no one's happy about it, but here they are asking for donations from the labour faithful. Seriously, what the hell is the big deal? It's not like we are being made to pay for it.

**sAsLEX** · 13th October 2006, 16:50

Originally Posted by Postie

I agree, but my point was just illustrating another one of Labours highlighted moments since their last election to leadership (if it can be called that), its a fucking joke to call any of them a political party, a pill party maybe but that's about it.

there should have been no need for a whip round for the police men as it should never have been a case against them in the first place, it should have been a case against the govt.

funny how they didn't charge Labour with the Prima Facie case the cops found but...... they charge their own!? Cops are weird.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 13th October 2006, 18:42

Originally Posted by Flyingpony

[RANT]
First they over spend their campaign advertising to some figure impressive figure of around $800,000.

Now that they want us to ring their 0900 number and make an automatic $10 donation so WE will pay off THEIR debt!

And what is in it for me?

Besides a phone bill, well, NOTHING of course!

Besides, I won't ring that number even if I voted for Labour and everything else to do with Labour because after all, every single politician is filthy rich earning big dollars and therefore can easily afford to repay it over night.
[/RANT]

I don't normally hate... but I do hate errr mother Clarke... literally hate

when will the rest of the general public learn she is on crack and been

this country for the last 8 odd years... enuff said

**Indiana_Jones** · 13th October 2006, 18:47

For Donations when you need it, phone

0900 LABOUR!

0900 LABOUR!

-Indy

**Skyryder** · 13th October 2006, 19:45

Originally Posted by renegade master

The whip around for the police drivers was the right thing to do. Their job is to do what their boss said, their boss said to drive fast so they did. When somone is following direct orders the legality of such is placed directly on the person who made the orders. Or thats how it should be.

Only in the military. Clark maybe the Prime Minister but she is a civilian. I doubt if she said more than a hello and goodby to the driver.

I still rankle at the overturning of convictions with the Motorcade. Suppose there had been an accident and someone killed or injured. Where is driver responsibility. No point in saying it's in the back seat with the PM.

Skyryder

**The Pastor** · 13th October 2006, 20:34

The Pm made the police officers brake the law, if they said no they would of been fired. Orders are given in the police as well as the militry.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 13th October 2006, 20:57

Originally Posted by renegade master

Orders are given in the police as well as the militry.

No note quite... there many reasons why you can disobey a direct order and be in the right and clear... especially in peace time.... (in time of war that it does changea little some what)

ie putting your live or any member of your team crew, and or civilain in danger for no apparent reason blah blah blah... This i know from experience...

If the order seems reckless question it?

**The Pastor** · 13th October 2006, 20:59

the pm said it was more important. What drivers are ever going to argue agaisnt speeding when the PM said its sweet as bro.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 13th October 2006, 21:04

Originally Posted by renegade master

the pm said it was more important. What drivers are ever going to argue agaisnt speeding when the PM said its sweet as bro.

So... ??? The PM is not god...

hehhe mother clarke tried to order me to do that I would have told her where to stick it and walked away... yes no job,... and the PM would have missed the flight and miss thegame who fracken cares awweeee

then sold my story to hollywood and made squillions

but alias I wasn't driving that day...

**The Pastor** · 13th October 2006, 21:09

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

So... ??? The PM is not god...

hehhe mother clarke tried to order me to do that I would have told her where to stick it and walked away... yes no job,... and the PM would have missed the flight and miss thegame who fracken cares awweeee

then sold my story to hollywood and made squillions

but alias I was driving that day...

Helen clarke is the boss of the police. I understand some high ranking police man was in the car too?

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 13th October 2006, 21:11

Originally Posted by renegade master

Helen clarke is the boss of the police. I understand some high ranking police man was in the car too?

It actually doesn't matter, the PM or anyone else can not order you to break the law... any law fullstop no ifs or butts

**The Pastor** · 13th October 2006, 21:13

I think the people would rather keep there jobs than face a speeding ticket.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 13th October 2006, 21:19

and realisitically she can't fire you over it either if you saidno... and thats her own law she is following...thats why she tried to deny it all... if she admitted to ordering someone to breaking the law... shit would truely have hit the fan... and same goes for if the she fired the driver if he said no...

ehhhh it in da past but still wrong and clarke is a cow ora bull not really sure... and now they simple steal and then ask us to pay it back what they stole