Portugal MotoGP **SPOILER**

**Tim 39** · 17th October 2006, 17:44

Originally Posted by k14

Well you're a complete fucking muppet. I can't believe you are comparing a club racing incident to a international motogp event. Yes very fair comparison indeed.

You're totally out of line on that ya fucking dickhead. Yes I know i stuffed up and I still think about that incident regularly aswell as having ALOT of people bring it up. I know all of them are perfect and have never made a fuckup in their whole life but I'm a bit different. Sorry i'm not as perfect as you. I apologised to said rider effected and have taken alot more (imo) than my fair share of childish behaviour pointed at me by certain other people associated in racing (you included).

Also I'd like to know who I am talking to, obviously you were there when it happend and heard every comment made by myself on the incident e.g. "and I think your comment was something like, well that's racing." Cause I'd very much like to know when I said that. I've never ever said anything like that about what happend. You have been severly misinformed.

Helo there mr Kirk
Personally I think that what you have said, isn't a very nice way to talk to people no matter what their opinion.
RE: the incident at Levels, I have experienced this more first hand than anyone as I was the one against the wall!!!!!!
there are some incorrect facts in your statement as well, but I wont list these as I have no great urge to start a raving session.
To be honest at the time I forgave you for what happened, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that it was a silly mistake, as people make, even though you hit me the week before at Ruapuna. At the time I chose to take no more action (like getting your licence revoked) however the thing that still worries me now is that your attitude doesn't seem to have changed much (as far as I can see) So i am still ver paranoid about racing in proximity to you.
I believe that this is probably the reason that people keep bringing it up.
I don't realy like dredging up the past, but your choice of words in explaining yourself earlier to fellow racers made me decide i should put the record straight. I am yet to recieve an apology for what happened then but I am still open to one!!
I personally don't think of it as "just racing" I know shit happens on the track but as long as you learn from mistakes it should never happen again, and I sincerely hope this is the case for you

**Sketchy_Racer** · 17th October 2006, 18:13

Tim 39.

As much as i feel for you, and the damage to yourself and your bike, I believe that this would be a much better situation if you spoke/Pmed Kirk personally.

You said it yourself that you didn't want Dredge up the past,

I am sure that Kirk is very sorry for what happened, I just don't think here is the place to be disscussing this raw subject.

cheers,

Glen

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th October 2006, 18:58

Originally Posted by Tim 39

RE: the incident at Levels, I have experienced this more first hand than anyone as I was the one against the wall!!!!!!
there are some incorrect facts in your statement as well, but I wont list these as I have no great urge to start a raving session.

I personally don't think of it as "just racing" I know shit happens on the track but as long as you learn from mistakes it should never happen again, and I sincerely hope this is the case for you

Mate, I'm sorry to hear about your accident and subsequent injury, let alone the damage to you bike, it's never nice. But as someone above said....roasting the guy here is not really on. We all race knowing full well we could be involved in such an incident, it's an unfortunate part of the sport we love. I've seen people die doing it, and I've been seriously hurt myself by others actions. But mate....we all make mistakes (yes, even three times world champions as we've just seen). NO one sets out to crash, let alone hurt someone else. It's part of it. The red mist gets us all from time to time.

Have a beer together and move on. If you can't do that, perhaps it's time you gave the racing away.

I hope your ankle is all good now.

Pete

**Deano** · 17th October 2006, 19:14

Didn't Rossi take out Milandri as a result of an apparently 'newbie' mistake

One guy in F3 has overcooked the brakes into corners while behind me 3 times in as many meetings, narrowly missing me. I hope he learns soon. Racing is one thing, but if your going to commit, at least have a fair idea that your going to pull it off. No need for stupidity.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th October 2006, 19:23

Originally Posted by Deano

Didn't Rossi take out Milandri as a result of an apparently 'newbie' mistake

One guy in F3 has overcooked the brakes into corners while behind me 3 times in as many meetings, narrowly missing me. I hope he learns soon. Racing is one thing, but if your going to commit, at least have a fair idea that your going to pull it off. No need for stupidity.

Well as you've said Deano, even Rossi does it, as does Hopkins and Pedrosa.
We all do it. Hopefully most of us don't do it that often, and when we do no one gets hurt. Hopefully we learn, and lets face it, we're always learning, no matter how good we think we are. Some take a little longer to learn the basics, but they still have the right to be there as long as what they're doing isn't downright fucking dangerous purposely. Just do your best to avoid such people. They'll normally crash out or run off track and then you're sweet as. Failing that, pull the pin and fuck off into the distance!

**Deano** · 17th October 2006, 19:25

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Failing that, pull the pin and fuck off into the distance!

I like that attitude.

**enigma51** · 17th October 2006, 19:33

I like how something in motogp brings up shit in KB You gota love it!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th October 2006, 19:35

Originally Posted by Deano

I like that attitude.

lol... me too, it's just sometimes harder to do in reality!
Years ago I used to race 250 Proddies with among others, Tony Sampson.
He skittled myself, Dave Cole and Bruce Ainstey all in one mindless swoop at Levels. I was the last to get back on and going, my bike being under Bruces.
It's the ONLY time I've EVER tried to take someone out on purpose....I chased him down with every intention of returning the favour but ran out of laps with him about 15m in front. I'm glad that happened, as it's the wrong attitude and him and I ended up getting on pretty well. From then on, I tried the fuck off routine, but he was like he had a fucking bungy on my back gaurd. Tenacious cunt he was!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th October 2006, 19:38

Originally Posted by enigma51

I like how something in motogp brings up shit in KB You gota love it!

All bullshit stories have gotta start somewhere!

**enigma51** · 17th October 2006, 19:42

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

All bullshit stories have gotta start somewhere!

Amen Borther!

All i know dani and hayden no friends no more unless dani pulls his stick out of ass go over with a beer and sort it out like real man

I personaly think colin did a fucken outstanding job he pissed dani and hayden enough off to wreck there weekends. Now theres a team mate people should look up too!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th October 2006, 19:47

Originally Posted by enigma51

Amen Borther!

All i know dani and hayden no friends no more unless dani pulls his stick out of ass go over with a beer and sort it out like real man

I personaly think colin did a fucken outstanding job he pissed dani and hayden enough off to wreck there weekends. Now theres a team mate people should look up too!

Spot on Bruva...he did what a team mate SHOULD do in those circumstances!
If I was Rossi, I'd buy the cunt more than a beer....a brewery perhaps?

**enigma51** · 17th October 2006, 19:54

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Spot on Bruva...he did what a team mate SHOULD do in those circumstances!
If I was Rossi, I'd buy the cunt more than a beer....a brewery perhaps?

If you have a close look at the race rossi (and he even said so) did not have his usual rythm and was strugling under the brakes if it was not for the fact that colin stuck it between rossi and dani/hayden i think rossi would not have done as well as he did. So when colin was behind hayden and dani and pushed as hard as he did it basically gave rossi the time to settle and open small gap which got dani and hayden pretty eager to push it harder and well after the past colin did on dani going into the "reverse" cork screw he was fired up and ended up taking out his team mate. Yes Yes rossi almost won but he had much easier race after hayden was out than what he would have if they where still there alowing him to preserve some tires.

You have to say Rossi knows how to play the mind games and even how to ignore those played by others!

**dangerous** · 17th October 2006, 20:42

Originally Posted by fatboy1

Hey K14, its a bit of "the pot calling the kettle black" isn't it?
I saw you make a very similar absolutley dick head head move on a guy at Levels

Originally Posted by Tim 39

the thing that still worries me now is that your attitude doesn't seem to have changed much (as far as I can see) So i am still ver paranoid about racing in proximity to you.
I believe that this is probably the reason that people keep bringing it up.

Guys, I was in the pits next to k14, and he was very upset with what had happened... also I will tell you both now... k14 has changed and learnt from that acco, whilest he often ends up on his arse, he is a very good rider.

I have seen the shit and reminders that k14 has got from people mainley from the 150ss crowd, 'some' people just cant let shit die, I can see how fatties comment up set k14 as I see the effort that goes into his riding these days.
Also I know how it feels to put another rider on there arse... its fucking horrible... give it and k14 a break FFS and pull ya heads in all of yas

Originally Posted by k14

You're totally out of line on that ya fucking dickhead.

While such comments get your opinion noted, it dosent really do much for your case, go wash ya mouth out young man

And Ill race up againest ya any day... ya just need to keep up

**erik** · 18th October 2006, 01:19

Originally Posted by Cajun

Nicky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6-TMnllGjc
Dani (Read the vid description)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2y8gIA8P_Y
Colin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM4WTHQTS0Q

Cheers for posting that.

7:42 of Nicky Hayden avoiding saying bad stuff about Pedrosa... Good on him.

**Korea** · 18th October 2006, 04:00

Originally Posted by erik

Cheers for posting that.

7:42 of Nicky Hayden avoiding saying bad stuff about Pedrosa... Good on him.

Totally! Heartbreaking to hear it really~

but what a race~! The season has just been getting better and better.
Beats last year's championship for excitement by miles~
Still, it could possibly have been even better if the Repsol boys didn't bollocks it all up...

Could have, should have, whatever...
Roll on Valencia~!!!