Portugal MotoGP **SPOILER**

**Crasherfromwayback** · 18th October 2006, 18:41

Originally Posted by Cleve Brown

but still there is a fine line between the 2 of them...

Not even close to the same type of move mate.
Like I said a bit earlier....Elias did it all in a straight line with sheer late braking. Pedroser when in so hot he was always gonna collide with his team mate. Hayden had already turned in, and without eyes in the back of his head had no idea it was coming, he simply got skittled. All of the other guys got passed by Elias whilst bolt upright, and if they thought Elias was gonna go down could've taken avoiding action. Night and day difference mate.

**k14** · 18th October 2006, 19:31

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Not even close to the same type of move mate.
Like I said a bit earlier....Elias did it all in a straight line with sheer late braking. Pedroser when in so hot he was always gonna collide with his team mate. Hayden had already turned in, and without eyes in the back of his head had no idea it was coming, he simply got skittled. All of the other guys got passed by Elias whilst bolt upright, and if they thought Elias was gonna go down could've taken avoiding action. Night and day difference mate.

Yep totally agree. Also the shape of the corner where pedrosa made the pass naturally means that you are going to be passing the guy as you are both tipped over. Short braking area. Whereas at the end of the main straight there is a much longer braking area and the corner is alot shorter so all passing is done before anyone is leant over.

**gav** · 18th October 2006, 20:03

Hmmm, I always thought the first rule of racing at that level was to beat your team mate??

Don't think Hayden did himself any favours by pulling that pass on Pedrosa the lap before. Pretty dumb if youre wanting your team mates help later in the race. Hayden apparently had a harder tyre fitted, Pedrosa had been the fastest in the morning warm up session, why not sit in behind him and let Pedrosa reel in Rossi and duke it out.
How many think Pedrosa is going to help Hayden in the last round?
Its in Spain, at Valencia, Pedrosa's home track, a crowd full of Rossi and Pedrosa fans, how many do you think really want to see an American win the world title? You think Honda or Repsol would dump Pedrosa if he won the race ahead of Hayden and Rossi ended up as World Champ? Nah, never happen...
I'm picking Pedrosa to win ahead of Rossi, and Hayden struggling to hold off a fired up Elias, Stoner, Capirossi, Edwards, Roberts, Melandri, Nakano etc

Interesting article about HRC etc here http://www.speedtv.com/articles/moto.../33412/?page=1

**enigma51** · 18th October 2006, 20:18

The bottom line is they guy fucked up and without being on the bike in the same position as he was we cant realy comment. We all are the best racers .....while sitting on the coach. I mean I am a rossi in my own right as long as its while i am holding the remote!

Should pedrosa have made such a bold move and took out his team no?
Is he an arrogant asshole? for me he is dont realy like the guy much I dont think he would have been as nice to elias as rossi was or even KR junior was

But in saying all of these he is still human even if we regard them as gods

**enigma51** · 18th October 2006, 20:19

Originally Posted by k14

Yep totally agree. Also the shape of the corner where pedrosa made the pass naturally means that you are going to be passing the guy as you are both tipped over. Short braking area. Whereas at the end of the main straight there is a much longer braking area and the corner is alot shorter so all passing is done before anyone is leant over.

Not when you fired mate all you can think of us i want to do it now!