Peter Jackson's got a problem

[James Deuce]

Doesn't matter Dover. It's like changing Winston Churchill's name to Beatrice Andover in a film about that Yalta Conference. Ooo let's change Stalin's name to Heather Locklear, and Franklin Roosevelt to just plain old Franklin. You know, the turtle from the kid's cartoon.

[Jamezo]

PETAR JACKSUN WILL NEVAR BE ALLOWED TO GET AWAYY WIHT CALING TEH DOG "NIGGAR" BECAUSE OF THE GRAND KIKE HOLYWOOD CONSPIRASY!!!1!!!!


srsly.

[Indiana_Jones]

"Did you see a sign outside, that said 'Dead nigger storage' ?"

-Indy

[slowpoke]

Never let the truth get in the way of telling a good story.

Like nobody on this site would EVER stretch/embellish/contort or ignore the facts as we are telling our little nursery rhymes. No sir, uh uh, never happen....yeah right.

[Hillbilly]

nigger means black, they can get over it just quietly.

Actually, it doesn't. it was the term applied to the African slaves as they came from the Niger Delta. Hence the term "nigger" has evolved into a general decription of people with black skin.

Regarding the dog, PJ will do what the producers tell him to do. Otherwise there's no money and no film.

[Hillbilly]

nigger means black, they can get over it just quietly.

Actually, it doesn't. it was the term applied to the African slaves as they came from the Niger Delta. Hence the term "nigger" has evolved into a general decription of people with black skin.

Regarding the dog, PJ will do what the producers tell him to do. Otherwise there's no money and no film.

[Hillbilly]

damn! Double Post!

[James Deuce]

Actually, it doesn't. it was the term applied to the African slaves as they came from the Niger Delta. Hence the term "nigger" has evolved into a general decription of people with black skin.

Regarding the dog, PJ will do what the producers tell him to do. Otherwise there's no money and no film.

The word Niger means Black.

[James Deuce]

Never let the truth get in the way of telling a good story.

Like nobody on this site would EVER stretch/embellish/contort or ignore the facts as we are telling our little nursery rhymes. No sir, uh uh, never happen....yeah right.

It's one thing to talk shit on a motorcycle site. It is entirely another to re-write a historical document of fact.

[Lou Girardin]

This is a result of the twisted morality that can see 600,000 people die as the result of an illegal invasion, yet gets upset about an historically accurate word.
The same people who forced the resignation of a Congreessman who addressed a black audience and used the word "niggardley" in his speech.
The poor dears felt insulted. Illiterate, but still insulted.

[slowpoke]

It's one thing to talk shit on a motorcycle site. It is entirely another to re-write a historical document of fact.

Surely it's just a matter of scale.

They are both open expressions for the general public to see. The difference in this case is that if someone on this site was to spruik a load of shite against a company, institution or individual and the injured party was to take it to heart then I rekun some heavy duty court proceedings could follow.

Mr Jackson and co will no doubt be protected by the "artistic license" convention and "this film is BASED on fact" addendum, so they won't actually present it as a "historical document of fact". That and the fact you could call the dog anything you liked except late for dinner, and it wouldn't give a shit.

Back to the original thread: he could always use "The Young Ones" strategy and call the dog "Igger, with a silent N" just like "Rick, with a silent P". (Haha, where were you in 1984?)

[James Deuce]

It's a matter of scale alright.

FIrst it's the small things, then the Holocaust never happened, and then it's "Black People?, There's never been any Black people in the US of A."

That attitude has justified more wars than religion.

[slowpoke]

This is a result of the twisted morality that can see 600,000 people die as the result of an illegal invasion, yet gets upset about an historically accurate word.

I know what you are saying jim2 and I pretty much agree with you. But which is the greater good: getting the name of the dog right or getting the movie made and honouring a great achievement (if any act of war can be called that) 'cos the movie won't be made otherwise. It may be sad but it's a fact of life.
As Lou has pointed out above we've got to get it in perspective, there are more important things to worry about.

[James Deuce]

I think Lou's actually supporting my point. They'll change history to avoid pissing off a shallow Industry who only really care about the 300 Million people in the Continental US out of a Global market of probably 2 Billion, rather than call a Black Labrador by its name.

As I've said before. Guy Gibson and Nigger were almost universally loathed by the staff and ground crew of 617 SQN. He was a nutter who did his own thing and time and again made decisions that got people needlessly killed. The dog used to attack people for no reason. The attitudes to both of them are very impotant to the story. It doesn't have the same impact if someone loathes a dog called Trigger, does it? And in fact that will probably piss off fans of the "real" Trigger (a horse).

Guy Gibson died disobeying orders and flying well outside the mission parameters he was trained for. He was a maverick and a loner and tended to bond with misfits. The Dam Busters raid succeeded because of those qualities. Take the dog out or call it Mavis and it won't be right.

Yes, I have my panties in a bunch.

[jonbuoy]

Thank god peter jacksons making it and not any other hollywood director, or it would have been re-written as an american plan with brits just lending a hand.