Peter Jackson's got a problem

**sAsLEX** · 18th October 2006, 08:50

Originally Posted by Hillbilly

Actually, it doesn't. it was the term applied to the African slaves as they came from the Niger Delta. Hence the term "nigger" has evolved into a general decription of people with black skin.

Originally Posted by Some actual evidence of what I have said not just my misguided opinion

Etymology

Main article: Negro

The Spanish word negro originates from the Latin word niger, meaning black. In English, negro or neger became negar and finally nigger, most likely under influence of French nègre. Neger (sometimes spelled "neggar") prevailed in northern New York under the Dutch and also in Philadelphia, in its Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities. For example, the New York City African Burial Ground was originally known as "Begraaf Plaats van de Neger."

In the United States, the word nigger was not originally considered derogatory, but merely denotative of black, as it was in much of the world. In nineteenth-century American literature, there are many uses of the word nigger with no intended negative connotation (see below)

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

God I really do hate being wrong.

Get over yourself the word means black.

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**The_Dover** · 18th October 2006, 09:05

I think I'm going to name the 750 "Nigger".

**dawnrazor** · 18th October 2006, 10:07

I guess the "problem", PJ (who is not directing by the way, he is a poohjuicer

Christian Rivers is the director) faces, and for that matter the film in general is being buggered if you do and buggered if you don't - and to that end they will choose a path of maximum media attention.

As to what they should do and as to what they will do, hey who knows.

But I reckon PJ should give the whole thing a miss and direct the Hobbit instead before the various actors needed are dead or too old, I mean the next indiana jones movie is looking like a pensioners day out at the seaside

**dawnrazor** · 18th October 2006, 10:13

Originally Posted by The_Dover

I think I'm going to name the 750 "Nigger".

we had a cat in england that my missus wanted to call 'nigger', it was decided that calling him for his dinner would become problematic as we lived in Brixton at the time. So we called him 'buck satan' instead, to the amusment of our muslim neighbours who probably thought it quite apt as he used to shit in their vegtable garden.

**The_Dover** · 18th October 2006, 10:16

is cat shit halal?

**dawnrazor** · 18th October 2006, 10:23

Originally Posted by The_Dover

is cat shit halal?

what did you think a 'yam' was?

**Lil_Byte** · 18th October 2006, 14:44

Originally Posted by Harry33

Shit how old are you? lol I can remember when a popsicle was 15c.

Shit you must be young I remember when they where 2 cents

Or does that work the other way around f*** I am getting old.

But yes call the dog nigger

**Lil_Byte** · 18th October 2006, 14:47

I just had a thought I will call my bike nigger cause she is a black bitch

**The Pastor** · 18th October 2006, 15:53

i thought orginally it was spelt niger and the offensive one was nigga

**Skyryder** · 18th October 2006, 17:26

One thing about the English language and the words that make it up. Is their meanings change.

Regardless of the original meaning of the word nigger, today it is considered an offence noun. However having said that the context of the film is a historical one where the word did not have todays conatations and therefore the name of the dog Niggar should be used for this reason.
The dogs death was a symbolic forewarning in the original movie of the Dambusters. How this event played out in real life may have been completly different at the time.
It is however a crucial element in the story of the Dambusters and to change the dogs name makes a mockery of the bravery of those that were.............................. the DAMBUSTERS.

Skyryder

My old man knew one of those that went on the mission and survived.

**Krayy** · 19th October 2006, 11:16

My daughter was deciding what top to wear yesterday and came out with:

"Eeenie meenie miney moe,
Catch a tigger by the toe,
...etc."

I had to catch myself before I corrected her and therefore freaked out her daycare teachers

**Krayy** · 19th October 2006, 11:17

Originally Posted by Skyryder

...The dogs death was a symbolic forewarning in the original movie of the Dambusters....

It would have been .... if he was thrown out of a speeding car and bounced along for a quarter mile before slamming into a wall

**Slingshot** · 19th October 2006, 20:51

Originally Posted by Steam

Duh, it's simple, just call it Boy, like "Heel boy", or "Fetch the stick boy!" or "where's my fucking dog". He doesnt' need to mention the name at all.

Nigger was also the codeword for the breach of the Mohne Dam! So if they change the dogs name...they'll also have to change the codeword.

Leave it they way it was I say!

**James Deuce** · 19th October 2006, 21:06

Originally Posted by Krayy

It would have been .... if he was thrown out of a speeding car and bounced along for a quarter mile before slamming into a wall

There's a rumour that that is in fact what happened. There was no dog in the grave when the went to move it when they were closing the airbase either.