Transit Tolls on Western Ring Route

[Whynot]

Just got an email back from Transit

"Transit's concept for the Western Ring Route is based on tolling Motorcycles at the same rate as Motor Vehicles at this stage."

Transit are a bunch of fucking plonkers.

[Swoop]

Just got an email back from Transit

"Transit's concept for the Western Ring Route is based on tolling Motorcycles at the same rate as Motor Vehicles at this stage."

That isn't going to happen... not on the bike I will be riding at the time.

I can see quite a bit of fun from toll roads really...

[twinkle]

shouldn't be too many left, the westies should have hunted them all down by now ...

If one shows up we'll hunt the fucker down pretty quick

[Squeak the Rat]

Remember, no submission no whinge!

[bakeha]

You can give feedback to Transit by filling out the following form:

http://www.transit.govt.nz/projects/...onse/index.jsp

Bikes shouldn't be tolled more than half of what cars are. Preferably not at all!

[MattRSK]

viva la revoloution!

[MattRSK]

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.
It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

[MattRSK]

Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down.

[BM-GS]

Thin end of the wedge. I'm against tolling in general, and that which presecutes traffic-friendly modes of transport (bikes) as much as the tin-boxes, in particular. Once this starts, tolling will be *everywhere* in 5 years. And the local roads will be jammed with people who object to paying even more tax to get from A to B. This won't stop in Auckland, or even just in the big cities. The technology is there & proven, so we can't even all rock up to the toll booth at once and try to pay with a $20 each (thik about it, it'll take weeks to get your gloves off, fiddle around, count the change & move off). At least they've tried to make the actual payment as painless as possible, even if the concept sucks.

The real gems were the 35 year duration and the CPI-equivalent increases in tolls untill opening day then CPI+2% after that. Since 40% is going on their corporate coffee and offices with sea views, they can whistle.

In the glossy, they're really careful to say that they won't be tolling the Harbour bridge or SH1 through AKL, to give people an alternative route. The thing is that you known that *will* happen, but it'll be called a congestion charge, not road funding. Political waffle & obfuscation, again.

They need to start dangling the carrot of decent, integrated, public transport before beating people with the stick of paying more money. ARTA say that's what they're trying to achieve, but do they have the clot to make it happen? I doubt it.

What they says above: no submission, no winge.

[Whynot]

Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down.

Learn to swim

[MattRSK]

Learn to swim

Haha good shit! Enema

[Squeak the Rat]

Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down.

Keep the thread on track and for gods sake seek help.

[MattRSK]

Keep the thread on track and for gods sake seek help.

Ah yes, i seem to take threads off track quite easily. Its a music thing. If i had Eddie Vedders phone number I would seek help. Back to it.

Toll Roads would be good if they payed for the road and a bit of future maintenance. Nothing else.

[Whynot]

This is a bit stupid too ....

"However, Waitakere mayor Bob Harvey says it is bizarre to build a "hot lane" right through Waitakere with on and off ramps in Hobsonville and Avondale.
He says between those two points, a city of 180,000 people has no access to the hot lane and will have to sit in dense traffic."

are there really going to be no off ramps between Hobsonville and Avondale ???
what the hell ?

from here
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/newsdeta...storyID=105493

[Swoop]

Scathing submission made!

What is the fu*king stupid idea of putting toll collection points on the existing sections of motorway??? This whole concept is to fund the uncompleted "new" sections of a ring road, not to tax us for roads we have already paid for!

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