Legalise the herb

**spudchucka** · 10th July 2004, 20:21

Originally Posted by MikeL

As a matter of interest I left the state secondary education system mainly because of NCEA. I fought it tooth and nail for years, and was labelled a dinosaur...

Good on ya MikeL!!

Originally Posted by toads

I hope they bring back compulsory military training too!!, and apprenticeships ........ sigh...

Good on Toads too!!

**scumdog** · 10th July 2004, 21:33

Quote:"Scumdog - I ain't THAT miserable. Why do you think I have a bike mate??" - sorry about that Jim2, it wasn't meant to come out as negative as that, it was actually a complement to your intelect.

**James Deuce** · 10th July 2004, 22:27

Originally Posted by scumdog

Quote:"Scumdog - I ain't THAT miserable. Why do you think I have a bike mate??" - sorry about that Jim2, it wasn't meant to come out as negative as that, it was actually a complement to your intelect.

Double

Cheers.

**Drunken Monkey** · 21st July 2004, 16:53

Originally Posted by Toads

I hope they bring back compulsory military training too!!, and apprenticeships ........ sigh...

sorry about my belatedness, but:

Apprenticeships, yes, but conscription...no. As much as my family tree has a long and proud military service history, and as much as I respect all those who put their lives on the line for their 'king/queen and country', I must say I disagree strongly with the notion of forcing 'everyone' (usually all males of fighting age, unless you're in Israel, then it's all people of fighting age) to do military service.
Conscriptees (and draftees) don't necessarily make professional soldiers (although few may, most won't), and in today's day and age, the army is a professional unit. If I did get my call to duty, I would want to serve with equally patriotic-minded and physically/mentally competent individuals (whom I will be relying on to keep me alive as much as I keep them alive on the battlefield). I would certainly NOT want to serve with lay-abouts, incompentants and people who really had their thoughts elsewhere (if I could help it).
Granted, I realise the point is to kick some shape into people, but there are other ways of doing that, ie at a much earlier age there should be more involvement with youth training corps, like ATC, or even, to a lsesser degree, Scouts (along the lines of Baden Powel's original military scouts).

**duckman** · 21st July 2004, 17:01

Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey

sorry about my belatedness, but:

Apprenticeships, yes, but conscription...no. As much as my family tree has a long and proud military service history, and as much as I respect all those who put their lives on the line for their 'king/queen and country', I must say I disagree strongly with the notion of forcing 'everyone' (usually all males of fighting age, unless you're in Israel, then it's all people of fighting age) to do military service.
Conscriptees (and draftees) don't necessarily make professional soldiers (although few may, most won't), and in today's day and age, the army is a professional unit. If I did get my call to duty, I would want to serve with equally patriotic-minded and physically/mentally competent individuals (whom I will be relying on to keep me alive as much as I keep them alive on the battlefield). I would certainly NOT want to serve with lay-abouts, incompentants and people who really had their thoughts elsewhere (if I could help it).
Granted, I realise the point is to kick some shape into people, but there are other ways of doing that, ie at a much earlier age there should be more involvement with youth training corps, like ATC, or even, to a lsesser degree, Scouts (along the lines of Baden Powel's original military scouts).

"Youth training corps" - Does this term send a shiver down anyones spine ??
Can you say "Hitler" ughhhhhh

P.s. I'm only stirring DM -

**Drunken Monkey** · 21st July 2004, 17:09

Originally Posted by duckman

"Youth training corps" - Does this term send a shiver down anyones spine ??
Can you say "Hitler" ughhhhhh

P.s. I'm only stirring DM -

Um, yeah. That didn't come out right...I can't recall the correct term for describing ATC, sea scouts, scouts, guides, et al...

(there goes more of that latin again...)

**rodgerd** · 21st July 2004, 17:50

Originally Posted by spudchucka

The moral of the story is to be very wary of what you say to reporters and even more wary of what you read / view in the media.

Witness the absolute packs of lies the Sunday Star-Times has been publishing of late when it needs a good story.

**spudchucka** · 22nd July 2004, 00:20

Originally Posted by rodgerd

Witness the absolute packs of lies the Sunday Star-Times has been publishing of late when it needs a good story.

I seldom buy that rag for that very reason.

**Timber020** · 26th July 2004, 22:21

I have a personal reason for not wanting weed to be any more legal or available, I have had 3 near misses on my bike with the legalise dope van that seems to stalk around island bay. Wankers!

**mikey** · 28th January 2005, 22:09

I CAUSE FAR MORE TROUBLE DRUNK THAN STONED

**inlinefour** · 28th January 2005, 22:49

in da world wifoutt legalizin that shit. Feck, look att me

**Jamezo** · 29th January 2005, 00:08

Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey

Um, yeah. That didn't come out right...I can't recall the correct term for describing ATC, sea scouts, scouts, guides, et al...

(there goes more of that latin again...)

let's all join the Hitler Youth! Sieg Heil and all that jazz! we'll give those Aussies the what-for! oh dear, I'm mixing Anglo/Nazi catchphrases...

WFT AM I TALKING ABOUT?

**inlinefour** · 29th January 2005, 01:06

Originally Posted by Jamezo

let's all join the Hitler Youth! Sieg Heil and all that jazz! we'll give those Aussies the what-for! oh dear, I'm mixing Anglo/Nazi catchphrases...

WFT AM I TALKING ABOUT?

Good reason to keep dope illegal

**moko** · 29th January 2005, 13:00

This is only my experiences for what they`re worth.
Among my circle of friends there are 2 definate groups,regular dopers and non-partakers.Those who dont indulge all have steady jobs,sort out problems as they arise and are very much in control of their lives.The others,and I stress these are a few joints a day people and not the more common occaissional toker,are all not only claiming benefits but also defrauding Social Security.All have tried holding down a regular job but after years of losing jobs through poor attendance dont even try any more.All sell contraband tobacco,dodgy DVDs and pirate Cds from different suppliers making money for others and very little for themselves.All sell pot themselves,all consider themselves quite smart because they dont work for a living while wasting their lives away on the Playstation e.t.c.Ask any of them what ambitions they have and their eyes glaze over and they`re stuffed for an answer.All talk big about some mythical future job and all the places they`re "going to go" and things they`re "going to do",none of which will ever happen.None are well-travelled,none have any ambition to travel or indeed see life outside of their immediate locale.We get along but they dont understand me and my determination to find a job a.s.a.p. after getting laid off any more than I understand them being happy to let the state look after their wives and kids.All are also very nervous people and paranoid as well,I dont know whether this is the weed doing it to them or it attracting that kind of personality.What I do know is they`re without fail full of bluster and bravado while being timid and apathetic when it comes down to it,again it`s a chicken and egg situation that I`ve yet to figure out.I also know loads of occaissional users and they`re just that,regular people doing regular things that take a puff now and again,either the "habituals" are life`s losers because they indulge or that`s the kind of person attracted to the stuff.

**XTC** · 29th January 2005, 13:45

Originally Posted by moko

This is only my experiences for what they`re worth.
Among my circle of friends there are 2 definate groups,regular dopers and non-partakers.Those who dont indulge all have steady jobs,sort out problems as they arise and are very much in control of their lives.The others,and I stress these are a few joints a day people and not the more common occaissional toker,are all not only claiming benefits but also defrauding Social Security.All have tried holding down a regular job but after years of losing jobs through poor attendance dont even try any more.All sell contraband tobacco,dodgy DVDs and pirate Cds from different suppliers making money for others and very little for themselves.All sell pot themselves,all consider themselves quite smart because they dont work for a living while wasting their lives away on the Playstation e.t.c.Ask any of them what ambitions they have and their eyes glaze over and they`re stuffed for an answer.All talk big about some mythical future job and all the places they`re "going to go" and things they`re "going to do",none of which will ever happen.None are well-travelled,none have any ambition to travel or indeed see life outside of their immediate locale.We get along but they dont understand me and my determination to find a job a.s.a.p. after getting laid off any more than I understand them being happy to let the state look after their wives and kids.All are also very nervous people and paranoid as well,I dont know whether this is the weed doing it to them or it attracting that kind of personality.What I do know is they`re without fail full of bluster and bravado while being timid and apathetic when it comes down to it,again it`s a chicken and egg situation that I`ve yet to figure out.I also know loads of occaissional users and they`re just that,regular people doing regular things that take a puff now and again,either the "habituals" are life`s losers because they indulge or that`s the kind of person attracted to the stuff.

Yeah..... What he said..... Well done.