They shoulda been put in jail till they talked, for contempt of court, just like that woman who refused to tell were her son was/is.
There should be no right to remain silent.
They shoulda been put in jail till they talked, for contempt of court, just like that woman who refused to tell were her son was/is.
There should be no right to remain silent.
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It is unbelievable that they got away for so long by refusing to help police.
The attitude that they are unanswerable to anyone infuriates me beyond reason..
Why do they consider themselves about the law?
GRRRRRR
Rant over.. Great that they have arrested someone.. those poor lil bubs..
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Completely different thing. That was a writ of Habeas Corpus. She was jailed for refusing to answer the writ.
The right to remain silent is a very old one. It has been the case since peine forte et dure was abolished. It is recognised in the standard police caution "You do not have to say anything, but anythiung you do say " etc.There are very good reasons why people should not be compelled to incriminate themselves under duress To see where that path ends up , take a trip to Guatanamo Bay.
Be very careful about wishing other peoples freedoms to be taken away. The next freedom removed may be your own.
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Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
Good job. He will have to be segregated from the general population of the prison, even the worst criminals have children too.
As for the rest of the family, they will get their chance to totally purgur themselves in court when the trial eventually goes ahead. Give it time, I'm sure the cops aren't finished with them yet.
He will be kept in virtual solitary while in prison but there will be plenty of inmates with nothing better to do than exact revenge on him and the prison officers will look the other way. Oh dear what a shame. Basically I am a pacifist but even I feel that he deserves all that comes his way and will never understand how the whanau has covered his arse
Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill
Oh! He's been arrested, he must be guilty then. Lets not bother with a trial.
Just think of the time and money we can save.
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I'm just remembering the aunty that talked to the media ages ago said it the family would band together (as they did) and that it's likely the wrong person would take the rap.
You'd have to have an extremely well rehearsed and water tight story to do that though, with days or weeks of preparation before speaking to the cops......![]()
you are right ixion, however there is room for centuries old rights to be reviewed, and there is definately room for some liability to obstructive behaviour, and perjury should be dealt with more than it is. i'm pretty sure the soliciter general has to approve a charge of perjury.
i reckon he'll get off. his lawyer has already indicated that her 'courageous' client (i don't know how she sleeps at night) is going to fight these charges
well i must say i feel relieved that finally someone has been arrested .. but .. do they have the right person ?
will justice actually be served ??
sorry i still think the mother did not show alot of grief at the loss of her babies far to cool calm & collected for my taste. As for the rest of the family everyone who was in that house who witnessed the abuse they are all guilty & no one can tell me that those babies would not have been screaming in pain ..
so to those who turned a blind eye, pretended that nothing untoward was happening are as guilty as the person who actually committed the deed ..
Have toKarma ... Justice catches up eventually !!
The Crown Prosecution service or whatever they're called in NZ would've made sure that there was enough evidence to convict this guy, so hopefully there will be a trial that does the work of the police justice.
Be very keen to watch this one as to whether there are perverting the course of justice charges laid against any of the others.
Could be hard to find an impartial jury though?
bloody good job, i always knew he did it, when you see chris smiling in way where it was a nervous laugh espeacilly soon after, taken in for questioning.
I am happy to provide the bullet and the lash for the rest of the 12, after the trial.
Bring back capital punishment.
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