Bowling for Columbine

[Paul in NZ]

Wierd...

Mr Moore is anti gun, anti bush anti anything except making a shit load of cash for mr Moore... I wonder when he will do an expo on the fast food industry?? I mean, I would seriously suspect Mr Moore is considerably more in danger of heart attack than a drive by shooting or being abducted by Iraqis....

Mind you... If they were gunna shoot at him... He'd be hard to miss.....

(sigh)

Not that I'm exactly svelte but....

Paul N

[pete376403]

Wierd...

Mr Moore is anti gun, anti bush anti anything except making a shit load of cash for mr Moore... I wonder when he will do an expo on the fast food industry?? I mean, I would seriously suspect Mr Moore is considerably more in danger of heart attack than a drive by shooting or being abducted by Iraqis....Paul N

After Farenheit 9/11 Moore is in more danger from the Republicans of the US than from any Iraqi.

[Paul in NZ]

After Farenheit 9/11 Moore is in more danger from the Republicans of the US than from any Iraqi.

There is a difference??

Golly!

Paul N

[Skyryder]

Anyone who stands up to the second amenders and the Republicans (is there a difference) deserves some respect reguadless if you agree or not. Just look what happens when conservitive America sees itself under threat. King: Kennedy, both of them: Malcom X and yes even John Lennon.

Skyryder

[What?]

Interesting comments. I didn't think Moore was anti-gun at all. He made a valid point that Canada has more guns per capita that the Excited States, but has very little drama involving guns.
The conclusion he drew came out of what Marilyn Manson said about "fear for consumption". Maybe I am way off track, but it makes sense. People see bad shit happening all the time on TV, the mentally less secure have trouble differentiating between TV and their own reality, and "Hey Presto" we have more bad shit going down. To get the point, you need to look at the differences between the Canadian and the US newscasts. Then think about what we see on our TV news (not much good news that I can recall).
'Course I could be wrong...

[Ghost Lemur]

I agree What?

I think he did a good job of highlighting the merican "under seige" mentality. I don't agree completely with the way he goes about getting his message across.

I personally prefer George Carlin as my favourite Honest American.

[scumdog]

I thought it was pretty good...showed just how screwed up and paranoid the Yanks can be. I mean 15,000 or whatever a year in the US dying from gun shot wounds surely means something must be wrong (whether it be guns, culture or greed).

Theres more than that die from motorbike crashes - and bikes aren't even meant for killing like guns are, lets ban all bikes.

[Skyryder]

I thought Heston turning his back on the photo of the little girl that was shot said it all.
Complete indifference.

Skyryder

[SPman]

The USA is a society ruled by fear.Personally, I dont give a toss what they do in their own , god given, country, but when they export their fear around the world and try and make us live with the same fear that they have, then I get pissed off. And its happenning now...airport controls, war on terror, etc etc etc. Thats what we have to fear from the US.

[Hoon]

15000, out of how many quadzillion yanks is that? Perhaps there are other countries just as bad/good as the 'Mericans but they dont have the population to show such as figure as 15000?

Yeah I got it wrong it was only 11,127 but apparently Canada has more guns but they only had 185 deaths? In fact if you add Japan, Germany, Canada, UK, Australia and France all together (90 million more ppl than the US) you get a grand total of 973 deaths!! Thats why I say something is seriously wrong with the US!!

Theres more than that die from motorbike crashes - and bikes aren't even meant for killing like guns are, lets ban all bikes.

Not even close. Only 3,592 US motorcycle deaths for 2003 according to this site. How does that compare to NZs bike to gun death ratio??

However Moore should've shown Charlton Heston a bit more respect even if he is a bit of a gun looney. Heston is the man!!

[Mongoose]

Not sure how it compares, but who cares, realy,who cares? Should we not look after k 1 W 1 people first and leave the poor damn Mericans do their own thing in their own country?

[MikeL]

leave the poor damn Mericans do their own thing in their own country?

If only!!!

[moko]

The USA is a society ruled by fear.Personally, I dont give a toss what they do in their own , god given, country, but when they export their fear around the world and try and make us live with the same fear that they have, then I get pissed off. And its happenning now...airport controls, war on terror, etc etc etc. Thats what we have to fear from the US.

We dont understand them at all,we`ve had shit-loads more terrorist attacks than the U.S. probably ever will have,mainly sponsored by Noraid fuckwits as well.When there was a supposed threat to the underground system being attacked with poison gas there was a comedy sketch about it on t.v. the next night,that`s the way we are,the Yanks are full of bravado then shit themselves over nothing.
We`ve got a guy called Mark Thomas that does a similar thing to Moore but without so much of the stupid stunts,he once filmed a young girl giving blair a valentines card"I love you nearly as much as you do",prat read it and the cheesy grin never budged.

[Coldkiwi]

and americas motorcycle death rate could probably be majorly reduced if the stupid bastards would wear helmets!

she's a scary country that one.

[Coldkiwi]

If anyone wants to see how the gun lobby reacts to an alternative view then go to

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39d53b0e0e22.htm It’s a bit lengthy but comparatively mild to some that I’ve come across

Skyryder

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and here's another post from site thats not just a little bit ironic!

"The man is an idiot. To say that firearms are the cause of violence is pure lunacy. There are, as a percentage, fewer homes in America today with guns in them than have been in our entire history. The problem, as we all know, does NOT lie with the inanimate object. It lies squarely with the people, and with the general moral malaise that has overrun America. Fights that once ended with a bloody nose now result in gunshot wounds.

The same thing could have happened 30 years ago, but it didn't. Why? Guns haven't changed, so what has? That is the reality that the author and his liberal cohorts refuse to deal with. If they were possessed with an ounce of intellectual honesty, they would look at ALL the causal factors, and they would realize that the presence and availability of firearms would be at or near the bottom of their list."

so.. ummm... can gunshot wounds still occur without guns then? The rest of us still have fist fights when we get upset...possibly because most of us don't know how to get hold of a gun so easily?