Yet another near miss ...

[slimjim]

well you either passed, or fucking stopped , ....... boils down to what you did, and whether if you were in a tin cage, would you have tried passing towards a corner blindy, don't know other than you hit a prick from behind its your fault,

[Whynot]

Though it wouldn't recommend it, the other option would have been to brake, pull left and if you couldn't merge back in, lane split between the left hand traffic and the car turning right, which would probably be the option I would choose in that situation.

this may have been an option, but the road isn't very wide so it would have been interesting ....

[SN4PD]

this may have been an option, but the road isn't very wide so it would have been interesting ....

When the front indicators get knocked out of their sockets you know its been a close one

Personally I like to keep moving if possible, I find it gives me more options in most situations over coming to a complete stop.

Either way you didn't hit anything, so its all experience under your belt. Hopefully you don't find yourself in the same situation again, (and if you do you're better prepared now).

[Macktheknife]

Personally I like to keep moving if possible, I find it gives me more options in most situations over coming to a complete stop.

I agree, keep moving if possible, dodge well, pray lots.

[ManDownUnder]

General comment... pick the cars off one at a time.

Don't plan too far ahead (i.e. I'll do these 5 at once), get the first one done then consider the next one.

Re who's fault? I'd say yours personally. Your actions led to an accident given a bad set of circumstances. On the bright side you got a good shake up without a coroner becoming involved so next time things might be a little different...

... won't they?

[Whynot]

General comment... pick the cars off one at a time.

Don't plan too far ahead (i.e. I'll do these 5 at once), get the first one done then consider the next one.

Re who's fault? I'd say yours personally. Your actions led to an accident given a bad set of circumstances. On the bright side you got a good shake up without a coroner becoming involved so next time things might be a little different...

... won't they?

good point, have been thinking and taking one at a time may have been a better option .... its tempting when you get a nice straight bit of road and you know you can get at least 2 though .....

and for those who havn't figured it out i didn't hit the car, although i found the traction limit of my front tyre

[ManDownUnder]

good point, have been thinking and taking one at a time may have been a better option .... its tempting when you get a nice straight bit of road and you know you can get at least 2 though .....

and for those who havn't figured it out i didn't hit the car, although i found the traction limit of my front tyre

Tis a case of live and learn... you did and you will.

[Titanium]

A wise old driving instructor informed me ..... it is not the car in front of you that is going to cause the problem .....

It is the car in front of the car in front of him ..... you need to cover the 3 vehicles in front of you.

You are at fault, you either over estimated your ability, the bikes ability or the ability of all the other vehicles (drivers) around you. Or all 3 posibly.

Being a reasonable moderate will keep you alive.

Just my 10c worth.

[petesmeats]

I would have definately not stopped... I like to be in control and with no movement there is no option of getting out the way quickly...

I would have either done a quick merge with the left hand traffic or i would have assessed (sp?) how far away the oncoming car was and if i knew the guy turning was not going to turn in front of it i would have accelerated and got past him on the right...

I wasn't there so i am not sure which one i would have done but i do know that stopping in a 100km/hr zone is less than desirable... Especially in the middle of the road.

Also the passing rule is that the road has to be clear for 100m once the passing manouever is COMPLETED not before it begins... I think you would find that 100m at highway speeds is not a very big distance... gives you less than 1.5 seconds travelling towards another car.

[SlashWylde]

yet again i had a near miss on the way to work today ...

So, what i need to know is who, if anyone was in the wrong here ?
From what i remember of the road code in this situation the car involved should have pulled over to the left instead of stopping in the middle of the road ....

Obviously we still need to account for these situations however and maybe i could have been a little more suspect while overtaking.

...and that's your answer right there. Overtaking a line of cars with an oncoming turn off to one side is asking for trouble. Guaranteed one of the cars is going to want to turn off to the right. Gettin home 30secs sooner just aint worth it in my book. Bide your time till a clear safe stretch presents itself.

[Fat Tony]

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/key.../turning5.html

STOP! What a stupid bloody idea! Carry on!

(so speaks somebody who now realises he has far more to learn about riding on NZ's roads before he gets over there, lol)

[Lou Girardin]

[QUOTE=McJim;823559]You need to have 100 metres of clear road in front of the vehicle you are overtaking before an overtaking manoevre is legal.

QUOTE]

You must have 100 metres clear vis throughout the manouvre, NOT in front of the vehicle being overtaken.

[Whynot]

...and that's your answer right there. Overtaking a line of cars with an oncoming turn off to one side is asking for trouble. Guaranteed one of the cars is going to want to turn off to the right. Gettin home 30secs sooner just aint worth it in my book. Bide your time till a clear safe stretch presents itself.

so i take it that no one here has ever passed anyone on a stretch of road with driveways on it then .....

[SN4PD]

so i take it that no one here has ever passed anyone on a stretch of road with driveways on it then .....

Nope never...

I try and avoid riding at peak times anyway, less idiots out there trying to kill you

[marty]

General comment... pick the cars off one at a time.

Don't plan too far ahead (i.e. I'll do these 5 at once), get the first one done then consider the next one.

Re who's fault? I'd say yours personally. Your actions led to an accident given a bad set of circumstances. On the bright side you got a good shake up without a coroner becoming involved so next time things might be a little different...

... won't they?

i agree - trying to ride too far ahead of the bike, without really understanding the implications of doing so.

you should be thinking of the 2nd car as you are approaching the first one, then the 3rd as you pass the 1st, then the 4th as you finish the 1st pass, then think 'what happens if there's a 5th car?' it's not like a car - your brain can't sleep.