Educational Motorcycle Training Video - Production

[Wasp]

There is no reason why we cant start now, the first possible segment is knowing what part of the bike is what, right?

All we need is a camera, camera man, a bike and a volunteer.

What we also need to do is come up with the content and a clear understanding of what we are doing / hope to acheive, i.e. are we doing step by step guide to learning to ride a bike?

probably a good idea to edit the first post while we come up with chapters too.

my ideas for chapters so far are:
1. the bike - goes through most of the parts of the bike, what they are and how they work
2. learning to ride - experienced rider goes over the basics, starting stopping etc etc, footage of newbie rider triying and stalls the bike a few times then voilia! success!
3. Legal side of it - BHS and Road code/learners license test
4. Buying a bike - tour of a couple of bike shops (or one if they sponser us, mabye one in each centre)
5. buying gear - same as buying bike
6. insurance
7. your first ride on the road - tips for starting out, encouragement to stick to smaller areas for now
8. getting used to the bike - travelling further inc motorway (footage of a newbie on a gn going up the takas?)
9. restricted license test
10. tips/good habits to get into when riding
11. credits?

not sure where to end this, restricted seems like the place to me but need to re-establish that they are still learning

anybody know of a newbie that wants to volunteer?, benefits are a good deal on a bike if a shop was to sponser us?

[Transalper]

I don't see that it need cost heaps, if you have someone to act as the Director who knows what they want to see and where to put the camera(s) to see it then the rest is fairly easy.
Most XP computers and Macs are now capable video editing machines and there are various free programs out there that are supposed to be quite good non linear video editors to do various effects like titleing, voice overs/background sounds, picture in picture, transitions and some other more nifty stuff. All you need is someone with a digital camera and maybe helmet camera if you want special shots.
If you were doing something down here in Chch i'd be happy to play with ya. I have the gear, know how to work the program (i paid for a semi professional one), can output to DVD and the web, but i just lack the director type skills to pull it off (and lack the qualified riding teacher type skills too).
It will be time consuming to get it looking good though.
And.. might be concerned about legal requirements, as in being held accountable for injury blamed on the DVD if that's possible.

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In looking back at the last 6 days and the first two pages of this thread, there is positive enthusiasm from all over the country.

Technical matters are raised and people willing to contribute with equipment etc.

Production format, content, and approach to this is being thought about.

RESOURCE DATA BASE - BRAINSTORMING
I think it will become apparent that this medium the KB website may [or may not] be a practical tool for building a resource data base.

Okay I am not up to speed with present day techology - but my thoughts are along the line of how can we build an interactive database with registered/controlled access [similar to this site] so that we may be able to structure a whole project management resource?
Already we could put into the database the 'Technical' and 'Production' resourses:

Wasp the outline format you have presented could be logged and then dissected from top down to the lowest level in terms of 'objectives and enabling objectives' and schematically worked through you started with 1. The Bike, and 2. Learning To Ride. A team may come together here.

Transalper you have touched on the technical production issues. Here we can take from the 'schematic' drawing board the bite size production facets. A team once again.

Disco Dan any thoughts on the internet and database management control?

Other contributors are offering technical equipment support. And more may follow.

CHALLENGE
The challenge, as I see it is:

using the internet as a tool, bring the knowledge skills of committed volunteers to bear and produce an effective training model at a test case level.

Realistically 12 to 18 months may be required to have a moderately developed broad model - there may well be good comprehensive 'chapters'.

Any Thoughts..........

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CHALLENGE
The challenge, as I see it is:

using the internet as a tool, bring the knowledge skills of committed volunteers to bear and produce an effective training model at a test case level.

Realistically 12 to 18 months may be required to have a moderately developed broad model - there may well be good comprehensive 'chapters'.

Any Thoughts..........

Anything is possible. Use the tech avalible and there are few enough limits.
I would suggest we ask for a sub forum for the purpose of ongoing works, I don't think we need much more than this and a few threads.

There are a few aspects that should be looked at to give the productions a reasonable level of quality. We don't want to produce something that looks like an amature job.

* Format for titles, overlays and credits. If they look the same for all productions then each part will be recognisable. It also makes life easier for the editor because the settings can remain the same for each part.
* Legal - we need disclaimers.

Making a full length dvd would be an enourmous and impossible job. But by making use of teams from throughout the country we could manage it bit by bit.

So we use a sub forum called "Video Production", limit who can create threads to mods.
Create a sticky thread with the purpose of the area.
Then create sticky threads for the overarching tasks like title format, disclaimer content editor info, camera tips....

Then for each chapter or part create a thread, the first post describing the aim of the part. This can then be used to organise production, a film team can then accept the challenge and film it.

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Anything is possible. Use the tech avalible and there are few enough limits.
I would suggest we ask for a sub forum for the purpose of ongoing works, I don't think we need much more than this and a few threads.

There are a few aspects that should be looked at to give the productions a reasonable level of quality. We don't want to produce something that looks like an amature job.

* Format for titles, overlays and credits. If they look the same for all productions then each part will be recognisable. It also makes life easier for the editor because the settings can remain the same for each part.
* Legal - we need disclaimers.

Making a full length dvd would be an enourmous and impossible job. But by making use of teams from throughout the country we could manage it bit by bit.

So we use a sub forum called "Video Production", limit who can create threads to mods.
Create a sticky thread with the purpose of the area.
Then create sticky threads for the overarching tasks like title format, disclaimer content editor info, camera tips....

Then for each chapter or part create a thread, the first post describing the aim of the part. This can then be used to organise production, a film team can then accept the challenge and film it.

Spankme,

Time to bring you in on this whole thread and concept now.

As a 'community' we very well could get this off the ground and running:

Your feedback appreciated.

Heads Up and Enjoy

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Came across this product:

http://www.sportbikecam.com.au/


Looks pretty nifty.

Not available in NZ - is there anything similar though here?

Heads Up and Enjoy

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Also another picture of the camera mounts:

http://www.sportbikecam.com.au/products.htm

Heads Up and Enjoy

[Transalper]

I'd just use a helmet camera either mounted on bike or helmet as required without the need to expose your handycam to the elements (including bugs and stones). Mine has interchangeable lenses for various degrees of view angle to suit whatever i need.