Bye Bye Army APCs

[Sniper]

Do they still have issues with them being very difficult to fit into the C-130's ?

Im not 100% sure, but my mate whos a driver in 1st Batt says they still do. Im still trying to figure out why we needed 105 of the fucken things

[Pixie]

Do they still have issues with them being very difficult to fit into the C-130's ?

You can fit a LAV into a C - 130,you just have to remove the armaments and that suits our hippy govt just fine.

I wonder what the hag's smart comment about the APC's will be?
"Old,the wheels are a funny shape and they are the wrong colour"?
After her comments about the Huey being an old out of date helicopter
But the US still use them.
And the A4's which the US still use for training

[xwhatsit]

What was the (either 6-wheeled or 8-wheeled) APC/armoured vehicle type thing rolling down Queen St yesterday? Anybody else see that? Two guys in combat helmets sticking out the top, waving at the tourists taking photos with their camera phones. Wonder why it was there? Anybody know? Maybe to do with that bomb threat thing?

[Sniper]

What was the (either 6-wheeled or 8-wheeled) APC/armoured vehicle type thing rolling down Queen St yesterday? Anybody else see that? Two guys in combat helmets sticking out the top, waving at the tourists taking photos with their camera phones. Wonder why it was there? Anybody know? Maybe to do with that bomb threat thing?

Would have been a LAV on show if it looked something like this..




Specifications
Crew - Eleven:

Driver
Vehicle Commander
Gunner
Eight Troops
Dimensions:

Combat Weight - 36,000 lb
Length - 273 inches
Height - over Hull 77 inches
Width - 105 inches
Armament:

Armament Primary: M242 25mm chain gun with TIS
Secondary: C6 7.62mm machine gun mounted coaxially to the main gun
Supplementary: C9 5.56mm machine gun pintle mounted
Ancillary Weapon: Two 76mm Smoke and Fragmentation Grenade Launchers
Ammunition (Ready): 210 rounds 25mm
Ammunition (Ready): 440 rounds 7.62mm
Ammunition (Ready): 8 Smoke Grenades 76mm
Ammunition (Stowed): 210 rounds 25mm
Ammunition (Stowed): 1320 rounds 7.62mm
Ammunition (Stowed): 3200 rounds 5.56mm
Ammunition (Stowed): 8 Smoke Grenades 76mm

[nudemetalz]

How strong are the tyres ? ie suceptibilty to land mines etc
They any good for Iraq deployment?
I know the M113 APC's could get tracks blown off quite easily.

I know they ain't going there, just a theoretical question.

[Colapop]

Seen the new Air force helichoppers? They had a Huey and *insert name here* (new one) plus a LAV on the Wellington Stadium (more cause for debate) causeway last week for the military show. Howling gale and the guy just eased it down to the deck like it was a perfectly still day...

[Squeak the Rat]

NH90 or sumthin. European jobbies, look like they have a naval bias or sumthin.

Don't know too much about the apart from this picture....

'Cause I'm too lazy to goo-ooo-gle, and too young to dieeee.

[Colapop]

Yep that's 'em. Very quiet too - not like the others...

[Hitcher]

Travel in an M113 is an "experience". Enough said. And they fit inside Hercs. A vastly superior product to the LAV in every respect, apart from top speed.

[Paul in NZ]

I had a WW2 Daimler armoured reco car once but i sold it for $375 ($50 profit)

Dumbarse

But at 5mpg off road and 9mpg cruising - I'm not sure i would still want it really....

[ghost]

How strong are the tyres ? ie suceptibilty to land mines etc
They any good for Iraq deployment?
I know the M113 APC's could get tracks blown off quite easily.

I know they ain't going there, just a theoretical question.

Read "my war" by colby buzzel, he served in a stryker unit in the sand and rates them.

But they have been proven in oz and timor to have less off road capability that the 113. Apparently the will fit in a C130 with a crouch kit but the weight limit reduces the range of the 130 so they can even make it to Oz, "the next dry bit to stop for fuel" bugger.

they will however add a lot of fire power against all the insergents fighting in NZ when Uncle Helen finally officially anounces a dictatorshop (he said dic)

[Sniper]

How strong are the tyres ? ie suceptibilty to land mines etc
They any good for Iraq deployment?
I know the M113 APC's could get tracks blown off quite easily.

I know they ain't going there, just a theoretical question.

Nothings safe. I believe they are armoured to a certain degree and some of the specialist models they imported are on "run flat" tyres.

I cant see how they would have problems in Iraq. They were built for Velt warefare though.

Remember the M113's have been around for ages. Munitions were developed to stop them, as well as Im sure munitions are built to immobilise the LAV Gen III

Travel in an M113 is an "experience". Enough said. And they fit inside Hercs. A vastly superior product to the LAV in every respect, apart from top speed.

Hear hear!

[nudemetalz]

I remember listening to the '113's going out on a night patrol while I was trying to sleep while I was based in Waiouru....damn did they make a racket !!!
Stealth?? ...ah, ah.....
But cool ? yeah !!!!

[Sniper]

I remember listening to the '113's going out on a night patrol while I was trying to sleep while I was based in Waiouru....damn did they make a racket !!!
Stealth?? ...ah, ah.....
But cool ? yeah !!!!

Aparently that noise fucked off the Vietnamese when they were sleeping in holes too

[Hitcher]

I remember listening to the '113's going out on a night patrol while I was trying to sleep while I was based in Waiouru....damn did they make a racket !!!

Poor diddums. You should have been inside the M113 to really appreciate the aural symphony. And the exhaust fumes. And the dust. And the lack of suspension...