Radio wave ‘zapper’ to aid UK police in ending chases?

**spudchucka** · 15th July 2004, 20:20

Originally Posted by Deano

And the Police follow guidelines (such as those for vehicle chases) to the letter don't they

(Not a personal attack there Spud

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There will always be those who push the boundries but that doesn't mean that the guidlines aren't in the majority of cases well adherehed to.

In the case of deploying one of these devices to stop a fleeing motorcycle, it is obvious that it could only be considered in a suitable flat, straight piece of road. Even then there would be considerable risk associated with its deployment. Road spikes are simply not an option for motorcycles, imagine going from 200 + kph to having a burst tyre, not pretty at all.

**pete376403** · 15th July 2004, 20:20

Originally Posted by Deano

My concern would be if you were mid corner under slight throttle and the engine suddenly cuts out - could cause you to wobble and fall off with the decreased inertia/centifical forces.

Mind you, it would probably be a matter of time before some clever fella designs a counter measure...

Counter measures exist already - magnetos and carburettors

**spudchucka** · 15th July 2004, 20:25

Originally Posted by Motoracer

Do they have any spikes in NZ?

Yup, they Sure do!!

**jrandom** · 15th July 2004, 21:00

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Road spikes are simply not an option for motorcycles, imagine going from 200 + kph to having a burst tyre, not pretty at all.

Always imagined that would be the case. Even the Evil Highway Patrol would surely not be so, well, Evil, as to put the spikes out for bikes.

Hmmm. While we're on the topic, what are the gaps between spikes when a set is fully extended across the road? Do they poke up in a real tight pattern, or would it be possible for a bike to thread its way through the spikes? I seem to recall seeing some potentially bike-tyre-sized gaps the last time the telly showed cops deploying them here.

I think it was on one of those shows where they have a cameraman following a hapless cop around on duty. The poor copper had the spikes halfway across the road when the BG came screaming round the corner in a stolen Evo. Copper just managed to yank them across and duck out of the way before it skidded through and... bang! Pop pop flappity flappity flappity... made for great 'reality TV'.

**jrandom** · 15th July 2004, 21:02

Originally Posted by pete376403

magnetos

Ooooh, ooooh, I got one of them.

FEAR my countermeasures. Muahahahahahahaha!

Might have to go rob a bank now.

**Deano** · 16th July 2004, 08:58

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Road spikes are simply not an option for motorcycles, imagine going from 200 + kph to having a burst tyre, not pretty at all.

Even worse would be laying the bike down (for whatever reason -panic/oil/evasive techniques) and sliding on your ass into the spikes....

Now that would really rip your undies

**ManDownUnder** · 16th July 2004, 09:17

Originally Posted by Deano

Even worse would be laying the bike down (for whatever reason -panic/oil/evasive techniques) and sliding on your ass into the spikes....

Now that would really rip your undies

I think a roadblock would be more of a deterrant for a bike...

picture it 200kph+... zinging along the road leaving the cops in your dust and "oooo - a bulldozer and loads of police cars".

I think the decision about stopping or not would be a given.

MDU

**Mongoose** · 16th July 2004, 10:07

Originally Posted by jrandom

Always imagined that would be the case. Even the Evil Highway Patrol would surely not be so, well, Evil, as to put the spikes out for bikes.

Hmmm. While we're on the topic, what are the gaps between spikes when a set is fully extended across the road? Do they poke up in a real tight pattern, or would it be possible for a bike to thread its way through the spikes? I seem to recall seeing some potentially bike-tyre-sized gaps the last time the telly showed cops deploying them here.
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You would have to be farkin quick at threading your way thru, at the speeds mentioned would you even beable to pick out inividual spikes to thread your way past?

**spudchucka** · 16th July 2004, 10:12

Originally Posted by Deano

Even worse would be laying the bike down (for whatever reason -panic/oil/evasive techniques) and sliding on your ass into the spikes....

Now that would really rip your undies

That would be ugly for sure but like jrandom said about the stolen Evo, it would make for great reality TV. Well, bloody funny TV anyway.

**Deano** · 16th July 2004, 10:15

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

I think a roadblock would be more of a deterrant for a bike...

picture it 200kph+... zinging along the road leaving the cops in your dust and "oooo - a bulldozer and loads of police cars".

I think the decision about stopping or not would be a given.

MDU

You've seen "Vanishing Point", haven't you ?

I remember the original movie when I was a kid - bloody excellent, especially the bit with the naked hottie on the back of the Harley.

**ManDownUnder** · 16th July 2004, 10:44

Originally Posted by Deano

You've seen "Vanishing Point", haven't you ?

I remember the original movie when I was a kid - bloody excellent, especially the bit with the naked hottie on the back of the Harley.

Yup - although I have to admit I don't remember the hottie... which worries me for some reason - I recall the bulldozer but not...

Hmmmm

Maybe I shouldn't admit that kind of thing.
MDU

**Firefight** · 16th July 2004, 11:06

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Yup - although I have to admit I don't remember the hottie... which worries me for some reason - I recall the bulldozer but not...

Hmmmm

Maybe I shouldn't admit that kind of thing.
MDU

Yep that was the chick in the desert bit ,In the true spirt of bikers, didn't the Harley owner offer him the chick ?, can't remember if he got laid or not ?But I now he didn't make much of an impression on the 24 tonne D8.
Shit thats a long time ago, Ia'm guessing about 30 years ago ?
Anyone know when the movie first came out ?

F/F