A stadium decision! (27 November)

[jrandom]

There'll be a few hundred million dollars saved over the waterfront option.

Are we suddenly so filthy rich that we can't think of something more useful to do with it? Cash money's not an infinite resource.

[forkoil]

So long as it's a democratic 'NO'....

Majority decisions unfortunately are sometimes just plain wrong. Reasons include:
Will spoil MY view (apartment owners)
The Govt cant tell me what to do, they can go and get f*cked
It'll cost too much and I'll have to pay thru the rates
When global warming gets into gear, it'll flood
Looks like a bed pan
Upgrade Nth Hrbr (how to get 60000 ppl over the bridge)

[Colapop]

No matter what debate there was. There was never going to be a waterfront stadium. It has just been an exercise for the government to have an out clause "We were never going to fully fund stadium alterations at Eden park".

[Qkchk:Me]

I agree with ya there.

BTW - Re: your signature.......blue balls are worse than a full bladder.

I cant compare with something Ive never had the unpleasure of having.... but I get ya drift.........

[Qkchk:Me]

great, that's traffic in mt eden, sandringham and kingsland fucked for the forseeable future.

As if it isnt already.............. why worry when ya got bus lanes to use with two wheels?

[The_Dover]

i worry because with thousands of tourists (without motorbikes) it's going to be an embarassment.

[forkoil]

No matter what debate there was. There was never going to be a waterfront stadium. It has just been an exercise for the government to have an out clause "We were never going to fully fund stadium alterations at Eden park".

So the gummint calculated on a no vote? Even I'm not that cynical. I would have predicted the opposite, Was genuinely surprised by the size of the no vote... Buit the reasons were all spurious, as I said above

[Lias]

It's gonna be funny when they have to abandon the matches at half time due to complaints from the local residents about the noise! Dontcher just love Auckland?

All those people that live near the waterfront that want to hold on to their gorgeous views of rusty cranes, cargo ships and a sea of jap imported used cars will be soo happy.

I could be wrong but I was under the impression the government was going to ramrod legislation through to get it built (at either site) so that the normal RMA conditions and council restrictions etc wouldnt apply to the new stadium.

So no wankers can moan about things like that.

Then again I've still never quite forgiven the goverment for bringing in the resource management act in the first place. Worst piece of legislation ever.

[Deano]

The Govt cant tell me what to do, they can go and get f*cked

I like this one.

[Terminated]

I wonder how things may have turned out if there was planning 2years before the bid to host the Rugby World Cup and the councils and government interacted and involved the whole Auckland region to get a consensus for the city waterfront - would stadium have perhaps got the nod. I the recent events to ramrod a stadium at the waterfront was absolutely abysmal and showed a very poor side to central government - the Auckland Regional Council had no option really.


Now go back to the drawing board and think about:
I reckon forget about a stadium down there and strike up a debate to build out a waterfront say similar to Darling Harbour in Sydney incorporating gardens and restaurants and perhaps, perhaps, an entertainment centre.....
The harbour foreshore downtown is absolutely appalling and needs to be done up. The councils would do themselves a big favour by not dropping the ball now and strike ahead to landscape/seascape and not escape the opportunity in front of them.

[BuFfY]

The stupid thing is that there is like so much land up in Albany actually allocated to sport, where a new (awesome) stadium could be built, LOTS of parking, (which is the shite thing about Eden Park, I remember going to Blues games [to support Otago etc] and the parking was stupid!!!! I mean there is actually none.

They didn't actually think about the rest of the country, just Auckland. And just because Albany is in North Harbour (not Auckland) they wont build it there and they have hardly talked about it.

I think it is good it isn't on the waterfront because that would have cost billions, just to see if it could even be put there! But Eden Park is a bad idea (well that is my opinion anyway )

[forkoil]

The stupid thing is that there is like so much land up in Albany actually allocated to sport, where a new (awesome) stadium could be built, LOTS of parking,

Buffy: Plenty of parking, but how are 60000 ppl going to get across the bridge? Last Fri U2 concert just about shut down the bridge for 3 hours, imagine what a soldout stadium would do. (I'm on the shore too). At least the waterfront has all the public transport terminating close by, and all the pubs, restaurants there too. I guess from Harbour you could get a coffee at Northcross afterwards

[SPman]

I guess from Harbour you could get a coffee at Northcross afterwards

What!
You can get a coffee at Northcross now!
How times have changed!

[Grahameeboy]

eden park is a shit stadium for rugby because of the cricket shite.

you are so far from the pitch you may as well be watching it in the pub. and I had fuckin good season tickets for two years.

i want to be close enough to the action to smell the all blacks shit themselves and bottle another semi final.

I was originally totally against the waterfront, however, looking long term, in some ways it would have been a great advert to come to Auckland......we could spend $$ on Eden Park but will it attract more concerts etc in the way a waterfront state of the art stadium could do.....especially if..sorry, when the AB's win the world cup......I dunno not so sure now.....how will NZ look to the rest of the world now that they have said no to a new waterfront stadium which would have looked cool?

[BuFfY]

Buffy: Plenty of parking, but how are 60000 ppl going to get across the bridge? Last Fri U2 concert just about shut down the bridge for 3 hours, imagine what a soldout stadium would do. (I'm on the shore too). At least the waterfront has all the public transport terminating close by, and all the pubs, restaurants there too. I guess from Harbour you could get a coffee at Northcross afterwards

And shutting down central auckland is better?!?

Atleast out there they could have all the public transport sorted