Is it wrong to hate xmas?

**Trudes** · 11th December 2006, 21:00

Party at eliot-ness'es Boxing day!!!

**Lissa** · 11th December 2006, 21:17

I love xmas!! Always have. The pressure of buying presents is easy, I dont give any to anyone except the kids. Grandparents usually get the handpainted calenders from the kids, which they can look at all year round.

I just LOVE watching the kids open their presents from Santa. Thats the best, dont care what I get, or if I get anything... its the kids excitiment I love.

Have a tradition that I was brought up on since I was a child. Xmas day, there has to be a Water Fight... buckets, water guns, hoses.. it doesnt matter, and anyone whos outside.... gets it! Fun!! And now I'm alot a bigger, my three older brothers are easier to catch! (well they are old men now)

dont tell them.

I dont cook the xmas meal, so no pressure for me, thats the grandparents. So ususally its just a fun day.

**MadDuck** · 11th December 2006, 21:18

Originally Posted by eliot-ness

Christmas can be a wonderful time. A time to reflect, to think back over the past year and plan for the next one. A time when you can sit back and have a few quiet drinks and not have to worry about anything or anybody. I love it.

Yippee Merry bloody Christmas everybody

OH yipee Christmas. I myself will be going for a ride. Then a stop to the local soup kitchen to offer my help.

**Maha** · 11th December 2006, 21:56

Originally Posted by MadDuck

OH yipee Christmas. I myself will be going for a ride. Then a stop to the local soup kitchen to offer my help.

If they are serving tomato soup with fried ham for dipping give me yell would ya please?.....

**Hillbilly** · 12th December 2006, 02:11

C'Mon you lot. You all *know* that Chrismas is to celebrate a man called Jesus who died to save Santa!!

If you haven't seen that episode of Southpark yet, you oughta. I love Xmas. I get paid double (2x) time and a half to work on a otherwise uneventful day.

So i get $20/hr, and it;s time and a half, so that $30/hr, and it'll be double that so it's $60/hr. Gee I

Christmas

**Biff** · 12th December 2006, 06:44

Bahhhh Humbug

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6213012.stm

**Motu** · 12th December 2006, 06:45

Two years ago on Xmas Eve one of my daughters turns up with a guy she knew from work - he was an American,had no family in NZ,had just seen a good friend die in hospital and was kicked out of his flat.We always have some ''just in case'' presents and were able to give him gifts and a family Xmas.He's still here and the father of my new grandaughter.

I am antichristian....but believe Xmas is a time of peace and goodwill to all....

**Biff** · 12th December 2006, 07:07

Originally Posted by Motu

I am antichristian....but believe Xmas is a time of peace and goodwill to all....

Are you a muslim then by any chance?

Here in the Middle East there's Crimbo decorations and parties galore going on all over the place in celebration of Christmas.

I've been stopped twice in the last couple of days by total strangers wishing me peace.

It's a funny ole world where we 'infedels' see christmas as a commercial thing, while non-christians see it as a religious festival.

For those that didn't know - Muslims believe in Jesus too. He was a prophet who prophesised the coming of Muhammad.

Salam alacomb to ya'all. (or however you spell it)

**thehollowmen** · 12th December 2006, 07:24

I don't like christmas.
Christmas is the time of year when the family disolves in to arguments and fights and sulking.

I vividly remember at christmas when I was young, my parents both telling me that I was never a part of the family and never would be.

It is supposed to be time for family and peace and goodwill but I never have seen that.

**Trudes** · 12th December 2006, 09:17

Originally Posted by thehollowmen

I don't like christmas.
Christmas is the time of year when the family disolves in to arguments and fights and sulking.

I vividly remember at christmas when I was young, my parents both telling me that I was never a part of the family and never would be.

It is supposed to be time for family and peace and goodwill but I never have seen that.

Adults can be so cruel sometimes aye.
I agree, the family thing can be so stressful, there's always a few that don't get on and it just makes life shitty for a day or two. I know you should make an effort for one day, but I just can't be arsed always being the one to make the effort and comprimise when others don't. Nuff said.

**Paul in NZ** · 12th December 2006, 09:41

I was thinking about this last night - it disturbs me....

Please don't be so miserable at this time of the year. Christmas is about giving but it's not measured in $$'s.

**Dooly** · 12th December 2006, 10:18

Can't be bothered with Xmas anymore.
We don't celebrate it.
Just carry on with a usual day. Might have a bbq for lunch, but thats it, no pressies.
This Xmas day I'll be painting the house and shed roof.
Come to think of it.............maybe celebrating Xmas is better than that.........

**Alice** · 12th December 2006, 11:30

Originally Posted by McJim

I work in Advertising.

Christmas = $$$$$

Thanks Santa.

'Nuff said.

Thats a sad reflection on how society is today.

For me there is to much emphasise on the material things in life, I dislike seeing kids been given over the top presants for the sake of it and getting into one upmanship with other kids over what they have recieved.I have seen kids from well off families having things in life to easy, anything they want they get, parents running around after them, indulging there every whim, parents have the best intentions but somethimes all it teaches the kids is to self absorbed brats, with to little consideration and respect for other people.I know a kid that killed himself on his 17th birthday, waited until all his friends where there then hung himself, so his mates had to find him and cut him dowm, and looking from the outside you would think he had it all, but there was something missing,.... its sad.Its not doing kids any favours or teaching them what to truely value in life.

We live in a priveldged society, life has never been easier for any generation we just have to learn how to handle the stresses life throws at us.My father grew up in the depression years, he lived in a foster home as a young child because his father died and his mother could not look after him, no PDB in those days.When he died recently I found out that one of his mates had asked him if he felt sucessful in life, and he said did because in the depression years when he would go down to the wharf in Wellington to try to get work, (at an age when today kids are still been potty trained almost ) standing with the other group of boys and men, cause they where just kids having to grow up to fast, they stood waiting to see if they where lucky enough to be picked out to get work that day, he wondered it if would be possible to own his own house, and have enough food to eat each day.How life has moved on.I learned from him the pleasure of the simple things in life, beautiful sunsets, all that stuff, sounds a bit corney but its real, saying that, I own and enjoy the comforts and benefits of our affluent lifestyles and consider myself fortunate.I think there is to much focus on wanting more, when if we look at what we have, we have much to be thankful for.I am not religious but I believe there is a spiritual aspect to life that gives it more depth which has come about from the knocks recieved going through life.The setbacks cause us to take a good look at we value and what is really important, they shape us.
Shit get back on track, that was a bit of a rave on materialism gone mad and how fuked it is.
christmas, small c, maybe its a reflection of where society is at now, its gone a bit mad to.
I will be enjoying it, 8 days off work, only loose a few days annual leave, new bike, what do I want for christmas, bloody good weather, I'm going riding and riding and riding and tramping. bring it on, eat to much, drink to much, well mildily to excess, hangovers are a waste of the next day.A time to enjoy with friends and family, just like most weekends really.
Hope yu all have a good one.