Traffic cops suck cock

[Hoon]

I got done for not having my license on me once. Actually I got hauled down to the police station for a breath test and passed it so they slapped me with that instead.

Without trying to sound unsympathetic, you can hardly blame the cop for doing his job. Also if you wanted the cop to do you a favour and turn a blind eye, getting all angst and pissing him off is hardly the way to go about it!

The reason you need to have a license on you is pretty obvious, you could be some unlicensed overstayer on his way to run a red light and kill some old lady for all he knows.

I've had countless raw deals from cops and every single time it was because I broke the law and got caught. No one to blame but myself. I've learnt my lessons and now I play everything by the book and you know what?....life is so much easier!!

[Hoon]

ummm and I think you are required to supply your occupation...maybe someone more knowledgable can expand on that??

"If you are suspected of committing a crime, you must tell the police your name, address, date of birth and occupation."

[MikeL]

I can understand the requirement to carry your licence with you. It makes the work of law enforcement a lot easier. But I also remember the bitter opposition to this when it was suggested twenty or thirty years ago. It was viewed as an unnecessary infringment on our rights and liberty, and for this reason attempts to legislate for it failed on several occasions. Principles were invoked that nowadays may seem naive. However, it was pointed out at the time that it was the thin end of the wedge. Be prepared to lose more freedoms for the greater good...

[sAsLEX]

if you give a cop your name and crap does he not have a radio but a few feet away which he could veify your current license state and all that crap??? Spud?? And the photos are a waste of time, the three I have had all look completly different and it aint hard to get a fake ID anyways!

[Lou Girardin]

How did you know he was ex-MOT?
And I suppose some cops are gay, just like any other occupation.

[bikerboy]

Be prepared to lose more freedoms for the greater good...

Greater good MikeL????, most certainly for expediency.





That's....." makes it easier" for et al.

[speedpro]

Even with only one side of the story I can see a problem with an attitude. And it isn't neccessarily Mr Plod's either.

If you screw up and get caught - tough! Live with it. An attitude will not make it better.

[Skyryder]

Whoops, obstructing (subverting ?) the course of justice ???

Thats another $2000 fine thank you Mr Jimbo.

No it's not. I had a run in many years ago for warning cars by flashing my lights. A few K's up the road this cop pulls me over and proceeds to give me lecture on subverting the course of justice. He called it obstructing an officer in the course of his duties or something like that. The bottom line was that by flashing my lights I was preventing him from issuing speeding tickets. I sat patiently waiting for him to finish then asked where was the evidence that I had obstucted him in the course of his duties. Off course there was not any as he had no evidence of anyone speeding. I pointed out that I do this on a regular basis reguadless of whether I see a speed camera or not as this is a universial sighn to slow down. That pissed him off no end and just to put the boot in I reminded him that he was my servant and as a law abiding citizen not the other way around. With his leave I then drove off.

Skyryder

[spudchucka]

My missus drives the car to the local train stn. Later in the day I go for a run (the fitness kind) to pick the car up,and therefore I am in shorts and a t-shirt. On the way back home some fucked up ex MoT ernie traffic wanker pulls me for speeding 70 in a 50 (fair enough) but gives me a $55 hit for not having a license. The distance from the stn to home would be about 5km's. Now someone please explain to me why the $55 for no license is going to lower the road toll. I also got a lecture about my attitude as I refused to give them my occupation.

Traffic cops are an embarrasment to the rest of the police.

If there are any traffic cops on this forum don't ever come up and speak to me cos I haven't got anything good to say.

If you are planning on driving then make sure you have your licence on you.

If you weren't speeding you wouldn't have got pulled over in the first place.

If you weren't an ass then you probably wouldn't have gotten the ticket

[Skyryder]

ummm and I think you are required to supply your occupation...maybe someone more knowledgable can expand on that??

"If you are suspected of committing a crime, you must tell the police your name, address, date of birth and occupation."

As I understand the law you are only required to give your name and address. Nothing else. Your occupation or anything else is no buisness of the state.

Skyryder

[spudchucka]

Knowledgable crims piss off the cops no end by sticking to their rights.

Crap. They just enjoy it soooo much more when they bust them.

[spudchucka]

if you give a cop your name and crap does he not have a radio but a few feet away which he could veify your current license state and all that crap??? Spud?? And the photos are a waste of time, the three I have had all look completly different and it aint hard to get a fake ID anyways!

Without a licence or other form of photo ID the driver could give the name of anyone they know who is of a similar age, race etc who they know has a current licence. Thats why you have to carry your licence. Its an obligation you agree to when you apply for a licence.

[spudchucka]

As I understand the law you are only required to give your name and address. Nothing else. Your occupation or anything else is no buisness of the state.

Skyryder

Name, address & date of birth. If you don't want to give your occupation then make something up like maybe a gay escort or flag pole painter.

[Skyryder]

I work with a guy who keeps his licence with his log book. Like most drivers who work the road for a living we need our licences while working and it is very easy simply to forget to take it out of our log books when driving the car or the bike. This guy has memorized his licence number. While this has never happened to him he believes that giving the cop his name, address and licence number is no different than handing over his licence. The theory is interesting when you consider that when handing over the licence the cop looks at the photo to see if it matches the person. In some respects this is no different that giving the cop the licence number. The number is a means of identifying yourself. If the cop chooses not to look at the number via the Wanganui computer to check that you are who you say you are then that is akin to an officer not looking at the photo. Just not too sure myselfe how this would stack up in Court but this fellow is adamant that by knowing his licence number he can identify himself should he have to do so. He sees no difference in the visual check of a photo as against a visual check from a number.

Skyryder

[marty]

i have been dicked soooo many times by people not producing ID, and giving their brother/sister/cousin/random/stolen details that if i identified an offence other than a licence breach, and they didn't have their licence, then they'd get both. i know my number off by heart too, but i don't expect it to get me off a ticket for failing to produce on demand. it probably wouldn't, as the number is just that - i could read your name and number in your wallet at the supermarket/the taxi ID/the keys holding the licence that you found etc (if you could find someone matching your description), and spiel that off if i really wanted to. now THAT would piss you off. (the taxi one is a true story by the way).