Forum whore
I went for 110. That translates to a defacto limit of 120. That's a nice cruising speed. A limit of 120 would be too high, as the consequential defacto limit of 130 would be too much for 90% of the people on the roads to handle (who are also the people who shouldn't have been granted licenses in the first place, I should add, but that wasn't what the poll was about).
Forum whore
Most people, about 98% of the population including a big chunk of motorcyclists can't handle 100km/hr. Including me.
I want it dropped so that the worst thing that happens is a sore arse or slightly stiff neck. 20km/hr is about right.
110km/hr is waaaaaay too fast for our aging population.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Cyborg Biker
Originally Posted by Jim2
huh... my aging mother got a speeding ticking the other day (so I found out) doing 140...
Forum whore
Yes, but was she actually driving within her skills and capabilities?
Bear in mind that your response will probably leave the door open for a scathing comment about the fact the most NZ drivers pass one test in their teenage years and then think they know it all.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Loud and Uncouth
One speed does not fit all drivers either - not by a looong way!!!
Some will still bin their Busa at the present speed limit.
30 kph I say - then there would be more survivors!
(Of course there would be a certain segment of driver/riders that we WOULDN'T want to survive)
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
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Loud and Uncouth
I laugh at the 'killer highway' name used by the media - I suppose 'dumbfuck drivers' is a little insensitive and the papers etc would lose sales.....
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
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Cyborg Biker
Actually she was she a competent driver...and I do know she sees bikes... shes like me going... ohhhh very nice...
Forum whore
She's a competent driver in your opinion. When was the last road craft course she went on? Were the other drivers she was driving around up to her standard? Did she care?
My last road craft and handling skills course was two years ago so it's time to book one again in the New Year.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Cyborg Biker
I beleive about 6 months ago... (I could be wrong she was talking about not 100% sure if she actually went on it tho... but she does alot of driving a heck of a lot) Its not just my opinion many people have said the same thing (many of my friends... many who use to be hoons in there younger days and now I would class as *mostly* responsible)
At the time there was no one else on the road within veiwing distance... on a road she drives regularly and yes she did and does care, (as do I) and if there were other vehicles I am sure she wouldn't have been speeding, but rather driving with the flow of the traffic...
Im not defending her actions, (and mother doesn't want me to either) My point basically is that it very easy for your speed to sneak up with out realising it, modern cars (and bikes) (hell i've done it we all have) the roads although could be better and a hell of a lot better than even 20 years ago...
Totally agree... driver education would do more than then the money gathering tatics they use now. Deterrants don't work if the did there would be less people in jail and we wouldn't need to be building more)
eschew obsification...
too right!
there should be a system of graduated licences -
and you'd get, say, a licence authorising you to do an additional 20kms ph in non-metro areas
- pass a more stringent test and
- do a series of prescribed courses [that the licencing authority could use as a revenue raiser] and
- survive accident/infringement free for a prescribed no of years in the class you are riding
........... pass a FURTHER set of similar requirements and get ANOTHER 20kms ph added to that .................
this'd bring you up to 140kph which is a reasonable country cruising speed under reasonable conditions for an experienced rider? [or am i a nana? yep - possibly i am, but you get the idea.....]
the flip side of this is that, if you have an accident or get an infringement you automatically lose your advanced licence priviledges and cop DOUBLE the standard penalty/fine ---- now THAT would be a real deterrent.............
it really IRKS me that authorities think only 'stick' and never 'carrot' ..
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Grass wedges its way between the closest blocks of marble and it brings them down. This power of feeble life which can creep in anywhere is greater than that of the mighty behind their cannons....... - Honore de Balzac
Forum whore
She'd be one of the 1 percenters then. Does her work pay for it?
Letting speed "creep up" is bad driving or riding and is not an excuse.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Guest
What about the rest of us with modern bikes?
Cyborg Biker
not sure who paid for... and I know letting speed creep up is bad and not an excuse... just pointing out how easy it is to do...
Forum whore
It would certainly make life interesting - all those chicanes!too right!
there should be a system of graduated licences -
and you'd get, say, a licence authorising you to do an additional 20kms ph in non-metro areas
- pass a more stringent test and
- do a series of prescribed courses [that the licencing authority could use as a revenue raiser] and
- survive accident/infringement free for a prescribed no of years in the class you are riding
........... pass a FURTHER set of similar requirements and get ANOTHER 20kms ph added to that .................
this'd bring you up to 140kph which is a reasonable country cruising speed under reasonable conditions for an experienced rider? [or am i a nana? yep - possibly i am, but you get the idea.....]
the flip side of this is that, if you have an accident or get an infringement you automatically lose your advanced licence priviledges and cop DOUBLE the standard penalty/fine ---- now THAT would be a real deterrent.............
it really IRKS me that authorities think only 'stick' and never 'carrot' ..
Imagine cruising up SH1 at 100, weaving in and out, trying to figure if the vehicle in front is doing 20 or 40 - and likewise for the one coming the other way that you've got to get in front of
Richard
Forum whore
No it isn't. You have to be actively negligent to let that happen.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
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