Poor Bugger will never be Commissioner now.

[Motu]

they can get those other road killers - Mum and Dad average doing 12 km/h over the limit.

Driving at 12kph under the speed limit I would think - prompting idiots in diesel Pajero's to attempt a pass when they need 2km of down hill run up to make it successful....or bump someone into the bushes if they can't.

[MacD]

It makes it easier to say 'speeding' than "man this guy was going way too fast for the conditions" eh?

Different situation, one is formal the other informal. However the driver you describe was doing both, exceeding the speed limit and driving too fast for the conditions. What if he had passed the cop at 95 km/h? That's slower than the (assumed) speed limit, but too fast for the conditions. Yet a speed camera would deem him safe. Perhaps a Police Officer would not?

What I was getting at was that the LTNZ statistics which are usually quoted by Pollies and the Police relate to "driving too fast for the conditions". Nothing to do with exceeding speed limits, which is how Joe Average and the media interpret the term speeding. This results in muppets driving at 80km/h on the open road thinking that they're magically safe because they're under the speed limit. Doesn't stop them clipping curbs and winding up on the wrong side of the road.

As I've said before I have nothing against the Police enforcing speed limits, but don't pretend they're anything more than arbitrary limits which can be changed overnight by the stroke of a pen.