Exclusion of Motards from F1, F2 & F3: Good or bad?

**Sketchy_Racer** · 10th January 2007, 17:54

Read what Dangerous says a again III

you and the motarders, Still, dont get the message.

WE (that is Forumula racers) Do not want you in OUR class. Get the picture? Pretty fucken simple huh?

MOTARDERS would bitch endlessly if i entered a Formula bike into YOUR class, So why different rules for you? ('you' as in motard riders)

When there is NOT enough Motards, Put them in F3, but they get a different flag drop. (Less than 10 motards)

More than that, have your own class and fucken stay in it.

Originally Posted by Idleidolidiot

don't penalise people for making smarter choices than you

So How about everyone go buy a motard, then we can completly get rid of every other racing class in NZ. GOOD ONE

Mumble mumble fucking idiot mumble

**idleidolidyll** · 10th January 2007, 18:00

Originally Posted by RG100!!

Read what Dangerous says a again III

you and the motarders, Still, dont get the message.

WE (that is Forumula racers) Do not want you in OUR class. Get the picture? Pretty fucken simple huh?

MOTARDERS would bitch endlessly if i entered a Formula bike into YOUR class, So why different rules for you? ('you' as in motard riders)

When there is NOT enough Motards, Put them in F3, but they get a different flag drop. (Less than 10 motards)

More than that, have your own class and fucken stay in it.

So How about everyone go buy a motard, then we can completly get rid of every other racing class in NZ. GOOD ONE

Mumble mumble fucking idiot mumble

No, YOU don't get it: It's THIER class too.

If there are 11 'F' bikes and 40 motards in a race, I'd like to hear what THEY have to say and we aint hearing it here. Obviously THEY reckon they SHOULD be allowed to race since their bikes meet the specification

most motarders wouldn't bitch if a formula bike entered their race; they'd laugh at just how stupid your choice was

once again, this sounds a lot like sour grapes than a real safety issue

**Sketchy_Racer** · 10th January 2007, 18:06

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

No, YOU don't get it: It's THIER class too.

No, its not.

If there are 11 'F' bikes and 40 motards in a race, I'd like to hear what THEY have to say and we aint hearing it here. Obviously THEY reckon they SHOULD be allowed to race since their bikes meet the specification

Well of course they would. Everyones Selfish. Thats not the point, the point is, if there is 40 of them, they can fuck off to thier own class

most motarders wouldn't bitch if a formula bike entered their race; they'd laugh at just how stupid your choice was

haha, fuck off, they would bitch worse than Me

once again, this sounds a lot like sour grapes than a real safety issue

Not Sooo, much a saftey issue, (although, it IS and has been before)

But yes, If they have thier own class, they can fuck off, and let others enjoy racing agaisnt their own, rather and Dodging Chook chasers

**dangerous** · 10th January 2007, 18:07

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

dear dangerous,

all i can do is laugh hilariously

a bucket can keep an F2 bike behind ROTFLMFAO!!

Given equal riders that's utter nonsense

so ya reckon you're a winner but you whine that those darn motards take different lines?

how do you win WITHOUT taking different lines? If you have the answer don't bother sending it to me, send it to the factory teams, it's something they'll pay handsomely for

ROTFLMFAO!! You're funny

Thank you.. I aim to please, now smell the coffee
Yes part was a PT, however were you say "so ya reckon you're a winner but you whine that those darn motards take different lines?
No I said I have won and tend to do so again, I take a different line all the time hell I dont even use brakeing markers (I know thats dodgy of me) I arnt agree with you about having to change ya line in order to get ahead.. BUT the Motard rider changes line all of a sudden as in locks it up (I know not all) and fucks off, theres no way I can do that cos for one the bucket has no rear brakes and the Kat... well 80's brakes never did work did they... ok wondering off again... yes we all change our lines, but the average tard rider is capible of doing what a formula bike cant do, and never will do as they were never desinged to do.

Ya being a bit darft by saying "how do you win WITHOUT taking different lines?
it would look rathe silly if we all took the same line to an exact line... kinda like watching a family of ducks waddle around the track or cross the road aye... I think you are taking the term 'same line' a bit to... well some bloody thing, after all even Gav would know that ya cant pass if ya dont change ya line... maybe if we were to say a Motard 'handles' different rather than takes a different line... would that help our argument and post count?

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

No, YOU don't get it: It's THIER class too.

yeah it is at the moment... no worries, BUT this discussion is about giving them there own class in the future

**idleidolidyll** · 10th January 2007, 18:09

It's been fun sparring with ya but I have shit to do

remember, opinions are like arseholes: everyone has them, you, me, everyone

someone offered the old saying: "the squeaky hinge gets the oil"

Lots of squeaky hinges here, I hope the motarders squeak a bit too or they're likely to see the loudest whiners get their way

**gav** · 10th January 2007, 18:40

Yeah, and some arseholes have opinions!

So how many classes are Motards going to get? After all can't have them all in one class, imagine a 125 two stroke MXer against a 950 KTM? Thats not fair is it?

**idleidolidyll** · 11th January 2007, 05:51

you really do don't ya

**Rashika** · 11th January 2007, 06:45

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

elicit a response?

actually no, just a red rep from that poster.... whos the ones with the towering ego... errr wtf is that?

funny how constructive criticism just doesn't work for some people? maybe the truth just hurts too much

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

The argument about how many races a rider can have smacks of jealousy rather than any real race issues.

actually no, it smacks of discrimination against one group (or in this case several) and for another... didn't we pay the same money to race? Why should we not have the same time on the track? I didn't see that advert saying 'MOTARD RACING, with a few others chucked in for good measure'

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

....Given that and given that I own a motard (previously the 640 now the 950), I would not be able to enter the motard only race and could only enter in F3 or in a motard race with no dirt section.

Should I be allowed to do so?

If the answer is yes, If I'm allowed to race a motard in F3, why shouldnt everyone whose bike qualifies?

as the others have said about the F3ers i guess you would have to "harden the fuck up" and only race in the motard class, if Motards only had their own class... but you are talking of road racing correct? so where would the offroad bit be anyway?
Doesn't exist at the track... yet...but it would be pretty cool to see that

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

It's been fun sparring with ya but I have shit to do

remember, opinions are like arseholes: everyone has them, you, me, everyone

damn it would be a boring place if we didn't huh!

Actually given that I dont race F3, tho technically I could... I guess it is all moot for me, still I am enjoying seeing everyones opinions of it all. Will be curious to see where things head over the coming couple of years at the track.

**Rashika** · 11th January 2007, 06:47

Originally Posted by gav

Yeah, and some arseholes have opinions!

So how many classes are Motards going to get? After all can't have them all in one class, imagine a 125 two stroke MXer against a 950 KTM? Thats not fair is it?

sounds a little like the postclassic 250s vs the 1100s?

**bistard** · 11th January 2007, 07:24

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

No, YOU don't get it: It's THIER class too.

most motarders wouldn't bitch if a formula bike entered their race; they'd laugh at just how stupid your choice was

once again, this sounds a lot like sour grapes than a real safety issue

Look at the moaning & bitching that went on from the Motarders last year at Paeroa when Jason Easton ran his Tigcraft & it runs a 450 dirt bike motor
I have raced against Motards for years now,while the class was being built up,they were fine in the Formula classes,but now they have huge following & have there own class,the speed & technology has caught up,they are just downright dangerous & should stick to themselves
Great spectacle,different style,hate to say it different mentality!!

**ManDownUnder** · 11th January 2007, 07:57

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

Given that and given that I own a motard (previously the 640 now the 950), I would not be able to enter the motard only race and could only enter in F3 or in a motard race with no dirt section.

Should I be allowed to do so?

If the answer is yes, If I'm allowed to race a motard in F3, why shouldnt everyone whose bike qualifies?

Not necessarily. Your injury precludes you from racing in a Motad race (complete with dirt section) but does not translate to an entitlement to change eligibility of entrants for a class of race you like the look of.

What if I lost the use of my legs so could only drive a (fast) hand controlled car? Am I ok to enter in the F1 races if I'm about as quick as they are?

**NordieBoy** · 11th January 2007, 08:20

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Not necessarily. Your injury precludes you from racing in a Motad race (complete with dirt section) but does not translate to an entitlement to change eligibility of entrants for a class of race you like the look of.

So Darren Heeman could only race in the motards on his DR400?

**ManDownUnder** · 11th January 2007, 08:21

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

So Darren Heeman could only race in the motards on his DR400?

Gimme the background - I don't know who you're talking about.

**Goblin** · 11th January 2007, 08:39

Originally Posted by dangerous

LMFAO... you are so green girl, I cant wait till you arse off....

You know the funny thing is....often when people say this sort of thing...it happens to them instead. And the other funny thing is that you're just as green as me but you talk like you know it ALL!