Graeme William Burton in custody

[Hitcher]

Maybe Hitcher you are lucky enough to have never met evil or sociopathic people. They exist - we are not all the same. If you had it might change your view. And for some of them the happiest place they know is inside - it therefore works for all parties!

I'm not denying that evil people exist who should be lock away indefinitely for their own and society's best interest. But like many things in life we're talking about a bell-curve distribution. Folks like Mr Burton are clearly at one extreme end of that curve, but it makes little sense to engineer a system that treats all offenders as though they are three standard deviations from the mean.

[Paul in NZ]

I have no problem if people want to be useless cunts and waste their whole lives. I’m even moderately happy for them to be on the dole as long as they keep their hands to themselves. The can even lay about in bus lanes (the blanket man) whacked out on plonk and grooving to their ipods for all I care.

However, useless (deleted) like this prick that have now ruined a whole lot of decent peoples lives can never make good on their deeds and need to be put down. It need not be a stage show like Saddams hanging but it needs to be done never the less. It’s not revenge – it’s just common sense.

Throwing people inside jails is a last resort BUT petty crime is only petty to those who have not been assaulted or robbed of their goods. I’m not going to insert examples here but good peoples lives can be ruined by so called ‘petty’ crime. Screw that….

The root of the problem (well one root anyway) is the systemic belief that all criminals are redeemable and all 'patients' with mental problems can be returned into society eventually. It is the vanity of humanity that we can fix everything when patently we cannot. The resources that go into rehabilitating these truely dangerous people is an utter waste, completely pointless and will only ever result in the eventual harm of the innocent. I also find it odd that so much effort goes into it when relatively minor problems cannot be supported or assisted.

Our society needs to start taking responsibility for ourselves. The current open slather system is not sustainable long term as too many people are actively preying on the incapable and reducing them to the level where this so called petty crime is the only answer.

I'd rather cease all effort in supporting the really bad via a quick termination and the resources going into helping the petty and stupid.

Politicians? They won’t help ‘cos they earn enough to afford bigger fences and better security and they need to be popular to get voted in next session. We muppets only get to vote on the options they give us and those options are always less than perfect and very carefully constructed to achieve a certain result.

Bah!

[Hitcher]

This may shock some, but having read a report on the cops actions who shot Burton, I think they should be honoured for their courage.

Lou, are you feeling unwell, or has somebody else hacked into your login?

[James Deuce]

Just so you guys know, this guy is the shit that burgled us twice in the early 90s and whom I had to defend myself from with a very hefty cymbal stand, and couldn't get the 5-0 to turn up at the house despite being cornered by someone twice my size. I'm fairly certain I broke his arm.

I pleased to see the real "candor" isn't the foaming redneck he was painting himself to be. Eh, mate?

[James Deuce]

That sounds like the emotive crap about people in Victorian England being hung for stealing a loaf of bread (never happened).

Can you supply ANY reference to a 17 year old (or any age for that matter) being sent to gaol , let alone hung, for stealing milk money.

6 weeks for a kid I worked with. Sent to borstal as it was then. No I'm not naming names.

[sAsLEX]

Just so you guys know, this guy is the shit that burgled us twice in the early 90s and whom I had to defend myself from with a very hefty cymbal stand, and couldn't get the 5-0 to turn up at the house despite being cornered by someone twice my size. I'm fairly certain I broke his arm.

I pleased to see the real "candor" isn't the foaming redneck he was painting himself to be. Eh, mate?

Surprised they didn't do you for assault.......

[scumdog]

Surprised they didn't do you for assault.......

Hmmm, sAsLEX is on fire today!!!

What's wrong? Not enough sleep? Have a bad run in with the Law?


Chill-out dude or you'll have a meltdown.

[scumdog]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/3921062a10.html

Uniforms got him and they opened up from 20-25m away. That is some fine shooting.

Poor bugger on the quad bike.

They showed more resraint than I would have in the circumstances - (either that or he fell to the ground whimpering like a nancy-boy when he was hit), if he was still moving and had access to ANY weapon I would have still deemed him to be a threat, already shot or not.

What a piece of shit that Burton is, best place for him is in the bottom of a well-used offal pit....

[Crasherfromwayback]

What a piece of shit that Burton is, best place for him is in the bottom of a well-used offal pit....

Yeah it's just a crying shame that when they amputated his leg, they didn't take it off at the neck!

[Finn]

Just so you guys know, this guy is the shit that burgled us twice in the early 90s and whom I had to defend myself from with a very hefty cymbal stand, and couldn't get the 5-0 to turn up at the house despite being cornered by someone twice my size. I'm fairly certain I broke his arm.

I pleased to see the real "candor" isn't the foaming redneck he was painting himself to be. Eh, mate?

Jesus Jim. Now, had you owned a firearm back then, you could have done us all a favour and finished the guy off. If not dead, then a six pack would have stopped him from his crime spree.

Well done.

[Finn]

Yeah it's just a crying shame that when they amputated his leg, they didn't take it off at the neck!

If the cops (not the 18 years old ones - but the real old grumpy ones like Scumdog) were given proper firearms they could of got a head shot.

[James Deuce]

I tell you that Glock 18 with the 50 rnd mag, the laser sight, and the bipod, is looking more attractive all the time.

And that Benelli shotgun.

[Finn]

I tell you that Glock 18 with the 50 rnd mag, the laser sight, and the bipod, is looking more attractive all the time.

And that Benelli shotgun.

Too heavy and awkward for close combat. The Glock by itself will do fine. Just add bullets.

[Finn]

I'm not denying that evil people exist who should be lock away indefinitely for their own and society's best interest.

I have an ex just like this.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If the cops (not the 18 years old ones - but the real old grumpy ones like Scumdog) were given proper firearms they could of got a head shot.

Yeah...or even something like my 12g o/u....pretty hard to miss