Where is Jayden?

**Squeak the Rat** · 9th January 2007, 13:13

I can't help but feel that public outrage would be higher if the kid was taken from the mother, not the other way around.

[sarcasm]Men are evil, so it's just as well he's not with the dad. [/sarcasm]

Let's just hope Grandad isn't responsible for Mum's mental health.

**ManDownUnder** · 9th January 2007, 13:15

Originally Posted by Squeak the Rat

I can't help but feel that public outrage would be higher if the kid was taken from the mother, not the other way around.

Pure speculation ... but I can see where you're coming from... and find it hard to disagree.

**riffer** · 9th January 2007, 13:16

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Doesn't anybody accept that there has been a crime committed here? Or what?

I've kept my mouth shut on this up until now.

I'm an ex-victim of the Family Court system and an ex who lied and lied and lied in order to get what she wanted. Many a time I wanted to take the kids and tell her to fuck off. But thanks to the support of members on this site (they know who they are) I didn't. And now my ex and I are trying to heal the relationship after all this, and it ain't easy.

It doesn't surprise me to hear comments like those from Crashe. I faced many of them myself. But the thing is, the family court system is very skewed towards the maternal parent. If the father was awarded custody he would have had to prove there was a problem with Jayden being in danger.

The chances of a father getting custody in this country are not good.

Dick Headley has committed a crime. And if Cindy Kiro and her like manage to overturn this country's family court law then they will set a precedent the likes of which this country have never seen. See how many kids are kidnapped then.

I for one am fucking sick of people immediately assuming there's something wrong with the father.

**Maha** · 9th January 2007, 13:18

Originally Posted by Hitcher

There are many people who know where Jayden is.

You know this for sure?....or is it just your opinion?
If anything like this happened to either of my two girls i would be more proactive in finding them, offering up money to the 'many people' you speak of seems a no brainer really, instead of tugging at the heart strings of NZer's by looking sad on tv.....just my opinion

**Hitcher** · 9th January 2007, 13:27

Originally Posted by maha man

You know this for sure?....or is it just your opinion?

His mother knows where Jayden is. So does his grandfather, Dick. So does the woman who spirited him away from Hamilton library. Other members of the Headley family will know too. And there will be people in Northland (where the Police believe Jayden is being held hostage) who also know the location of the crime scene. Northland is too small a place for this not to be the case.

**yungatart** · 9th January 2007, 13:28

If something like this happened to one of my kids I would do whatever it took to get them back...whether I could afford it or not!
The family court is definitely skewed towards the mother in NZ, it seems to me, judging by comments made on here, that many members of the public are too.
A child's safety, emotional well being, right to stability, education etc etc is at risk here.. this boy is only 6. His rights have been violated!
People know where he is, no matter there thoughts on the rights and wrongs of the situation, they need to start talking!

**Maha** · 9th January 2007, 13:38

Theres no way i agree with what is happening Hitcher, just seems a little too one sided for me. Yes a crime has been committed, and the criminal is serving time. I stand by my feelings on the matter........

**ManDownUnder** · 9th January 2007, 15:07

Originally Posted by maha man

You know this for sure?....or is it just your opinion?
If anything like this happened to either of my two girls i would be more proactive in finding them, offering up money to the 'many people' you speak of seems a no brainer really, instead of tugging at the heart strings of NZer's by looking sad on tv.....just my opinion

The monetary offer is on the table - click the link in my sig. Actually have a rumage. I'm not sure how much is fact or fiction, but it's interesting reading

**Maha** · 9th January 2007, 15:14

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

The monetary offer is on the table - click the link in my sig. Actually have a rumage. I'm not sure how much is fact or fiction, but it's interesting reading

Thanks for that Nigel....someone out there can do with 20k im sure, give it days and and he will be in police hands....

**Mom** · 9th January 2007, 16:58

This issue has been on my mind for a while, so for what it is worth here goes my input,

There is a little boy somewhere in NZ being cared for by someone that loves him, and by virtue of that love is denying him the love of his extended family, school, friends. I know that may be conjecture in parts but i can hardly see Jayden being allowed to play outdoors with his mates.

This little fella has a Grandfather who is facing criminal charges, a mother in prison and a father who rightly or wrongly (remember the court has made this decision, and we dont know the facts, and are unlikely to) has been granted custody and is desperate to get his son home.

I have read the opinions here (all valid and with merit) but this poor little boy should be living "normally" not hidden away. Whether he is being "brainwashed" by his Grandfather or even, heaven help him once he gets home, being given a whole new set of truths by his father, the most important thing is to get this lad back where he can be monitored.

In my experience ( I fostered children for many years) I have never seen a case of smoke without fire, one side of the family desperate to keep the boy away from his father, and a court system giving him custody, there is obviously a hell of a lot more to this story than we will probably ever know, lets just hope that common sense prevails soonest, that or the $20K being offered does the trick.

Sorry for the long post

**Her_C4** · 9th January 2007, 17:45

Originally Posted by Mom

There is a little boy somewhere in NZ being cared for by someone that loves him, and by virtue of that love is denying him the love of his extended family, school, friends.

Can't deny that

Originally Posted by Mom

the most important thing is to get this lad back where he can be monitored.

Absolutely

Originally Posted by Mom

In my experience ( I fostered children for many years) I have never seen a case of smoke without fire,

Me too

Originally Posted by Mom

there is obviously a hell of a lot more to this story than we will probably ever know, lets just hope that common sense prevails soonest, that or the $20K being offered does the trick

**ManDownUnder** · 10th January 2007, 09:05

Originally Posted by riffer

I've kept my mouth shut on this up until now.

rest of post snipped out for expediency - I'd simply be quoting it all bit by bit and saying the same thing.

There's so much in here to respect I won't go through it blow by blow. QDOS from me mate... and good luck for future days.

**Crazy Steve** · 10th January 2007, 09:45

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Here's a photo of Jayden Headley.

In Cambridge yesterday..

Crazy Steve..

**terbang** · 10th January 2007, 09:53

Originally Posted by Hitcher

You have it in one, albeit in breach of a Court custody ruling in favour of his father. Mum is currently rotting in jail for contempt of Court.

She sure is and willingly too. There must have been some serious trouble with the boy's father for her to do that. Like the parole board, the court is not always right.