Why is it that when you do something nice, some people don’t appreciate it!!

[Manxman]

Hi Drum

Agree with you there on all counts, she wants to stay in the same industry, so she doesnt want to make too much fuss

...when all said & done (and there's some great advice on this thread - from Grub in particular), in life we have to either stand up for our principles, or be rolled over by more dominant types.

Your course of action must be one that you can look back and say "I did the right thing and I'm happy with my choice".

I think you hold a number of aces here and should try to pass the pressure back on the org, by calmly saying things like "do you really want to force me out over this matter", "do you understand the potential consequences", "don't you see the possible benefits and exposure this could give the org", etc. This may force them to reassess and come around.

It sounds like there is a particular individual blocking the way (?may be a personality clash?), who is possibly under pressure from above, is not handling that pressure well and is therefore (un)consciously taking a very short term and reactive approach to the situation.

Is there any way to escalate this above that individual and get a higher ranking person to see your side of the argument? May be worth a go through a casual conversation.

BTW, great cause & good luck. When are you in Wellington??

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

Get a lawyer - the ones I work for also have an office in Auckland and they are excellent - pm me for their name. I have worked on employment law and you sure have an excellent case.

Good on you for sticking to your principles. I respect and admire what you propose to do raising funds for cancer.

There will certainly be silver linings for you.

All the best

[Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)]

Ooops just realise you are not in Auckland!!

[Richard Mc F]

dirt balls, yep the other name for employer.....was working fer a big assed institution...piece of shit managers i believe only tolerated my abrasive behaviour 'cause wat i did was a cross between stirring chicken entrails, econimic forecasting and marketing and selling the of lease used shit well enough to prove I knew wtf i were were on about.......and could, they near died when i handed my notice in effective 2/12/06........I had many issues with them in 10 odd years, get an employment lawer our man of one of the previous posts had it right, if you have done no wrong GO HARD....they freak like nanas when confronted by by informed critisism, NAME and SHAME just a wee thread in general ravings to say "I am leaving ******** to pursue a charitable cause" embelishments I leave to you I need to know who they are to boycott them......pm me if you wish

[Dooly]

Thats real bad form by the employer.

Any chance of naming them?
My wife's in sales.

[RantyDave]

During the period 29th January - 17 March there will be no planned concession for any of the Sales staff to take extended leave during this period due to a new product launch

Employment court - this is a constructive dismissal. Send her boss a pair of surgical gloves so he gets the idea.

Dave

[Hawkeye]

If she is going to resign, make sure she explains the reason in the resignation letter. (politely) Spell out their lack of forthought and the great opportunity for media coverage the event is going to bring. Especially right at the time of the new product launch. Their loss. They may even re-consider once you point out the opportunity.

As for lawyers etc. I've seen first hand the affect when things turn nasty. She might win the case and keep the job. But the after taste is bitter. The employers then become annal. They look for ways to criticise, keep moving the goal posts and generally make it almost impossible to feel comfortable. You end up looking over your shoulder constantly. They are also the people who provide references for the next job. As someone else has already stated, NZ is a small place!

Thumbs up for a great cause. You both are doing a wonderful thing for those less fortunate.

[James Deuce]

Have to disagree there Hawkeye. A resignation letter should never contain any thing other than, 'So long, and thanks for all the fish", or words to that effect, plus the date you will be finishing.

[Crisis management]

Thats horrible news Scott and Carrisa, the last thing you need now is this sort of crap!
Good on you for carrying on with the Ride for Life rather than buckling to that sort of mean spirited pressure, they're probably only jealous of you anyway!

Take Grub's advice, there needs to be a stand made against crappy people and it is rare to be able to make such a stand. Quite often they are able to hide behind the law or money, so if you can give them a wake up call without lowering yourself to their level do it!

Thinking of you!

Iain

[Nasty]

Hey guys

Check out what Grub was saying with a lawyer ... what they have done is really tantamount to constructive dismissal in forcing her into a position of having to resign. Don't leave it ... do it now .. they will have two options ... one of which is pay out .. the other is hold the job open or reemploy.

[Zukin]

Thanks for everyones help and support, It really means a lot.

For the very first time ever, Carissa sat down for about 1/2 an hour and read every post, she had tears rolling down her cheek, and I told her it would be alright, she replied
"I am not sad about those bunch of idiots at work, I am happy with all the messages of well wishes and support from people I have mever meet, It makes me really appreciate what we are doing is the right thing!
It is a circle of friendship, we are helping others in need, and in return, when we need help others are helping us"

So thanks guys and gals, you really perked her up

Cheers Scott

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

So thanks guys and gals, you really perked her up

The one thing I did learn from the Navy is his... "Don't let the bastards get to you."

[ManDownUnder]

Scott - does she have a CV? Post it up here... who knows - she might get to take a break between jobs, do the ride, and end up in a better role too...

Win win win?

[elle-f]

You two have the most wonderful attitude to life and people have mentioned karma and they are right - what goes around, comes around. however, I suggest you try to get a hold of the minutes of the meeting in October when it was brought up and see what was said. While it's important not to burn your bridges its also important to have fairness. If the employers are talking to her colleagues that shows me that they know what they have done is wrong and it also shows me that there is a bit of workplace bullying going on.

Whatever you two decide to do in regards to the action you will take - good luck. I really cannot do anything as i am not in a position to be able to but if you can think of anything let me know.

Regards,
Michelle

[smokeyging]

In all my years in the work force I have gone out of my way to help that company etc, and likewise they have all done the same for me. Whenever I have needed help or a day or two off they have been more than helpful. To me you are asking a favour and they don’t want a bar of it. I doubt they are worth looking after. By the sounds of things your wife will have no problems getting another job for she should have loads of contacts from the customers she has worked with etc. there are some company’s out there with the arrogance that there’s always another monkey to take your wife’s place. Of course the silly clowns eventually end up with monkeys and wonder why there company goes down the gurgler.