Why is it that when you do something nice, some people don’t appreciate it!!

[Mumbles]

Seems to me you guys have the power in this.... all the information provided here is sound.
KARMA rulz.
Stay safe on your trip, cant wait to see you on Campbell Live,
Bloody Marvelous!!

[boomer]

As an employer you have the right to say no, turn the tables and pretend that your mrs decided to cancel her leave after submitting it 5 months in advance then cancelling it a month to go.

i feel for your mrs, but you also have to understand that business's need to try and make money


* this is gonan hurt

[chanceyy]

been some good advice here .. with speedie .. sitting back & watching with interest

[Drum]

You don't want to work for a company like that anyway. If it wasn't this, it would've been something else down the line.

I would think long and hard before burning bridges though, NZ is a small place!

[candor]

Don't get screwed. This sux. Get to an employment lawyer NOW I say. A lawyer would say to prepare for and imagine the worst scenario. You should not be losing half your income for doing something for charity. Employer sounds cunning and sneaky - defend!

[davereid]

I think a company that behaves that way is not a good company to work for. Get a lawyer, sue them for as much as you can get, but dont go back.

[Zukin]

Was the leave application approved then rescinded?
A personal grievance seems in order.
This is an example of the vaunted work/life balance that is so important to employers.

Hi Lou

No the leave application that was sent was never replied to, however that is an electronic form, no other leave applications have ever been replied to either
Still she mucked up by not confirming it, but they all knew about it, in fact it was brought up in their October sales meeting!

[Zukin]

You don't want to work for a company like that anyway. If it wasn't this, it would've been something else down the line.

I would think long and hard before burning bridges though, NZ is a small place!

Hi Drum

Agree with you there on all counts, she wants to stay in the same industry, so she doesnt want to make too much fuss

[RT527]

Hi Lou

No the leave application that was sent was never replied to, however that is an electronic form, no other leave applications have ever been replied to either
Still she mucked up by not confirming it, but they all knew about it, in fact it was brought up in their October sales meeting!

Then you have witnesses

[Colapop]

If it was brought up then it was either approved or not - simply by stating that she was going to be there or not...

[Zukin]

As an employer you have the right to say no, turn the tables and pretend that your mrs decided to cancel her leave after submitting it 5 months in advance then cancelling it a month to go.

i feel for your mrs, but you also have to understand that business's need to try and make money


* this is gonan hurt

If someone decided to cancel leave, then the company wins! (unless they had arranged a casual staff member)
However cancelling leave in 1 month, must be better than losing a good staff member in a month??? After all everyone can be replaced, however it can take a while!!

[Swoop]

What a shame the company concerned couldn't have used the ride as a form of media exposure for their new product.....

Sponsorship.

[James Deuce]

Loyalty? Never gonna get it from employers these days. In saying that, do employees give employers loyalty? It's a cynical world we live in and as much as we as individuals show loyalty - there are the minority (as usual) that have sploiled it for the rest of us.

With all due respect Col (i.e. none) that's bollocks. No company in history with more than two employees has ever shown any loyalty to staff beyond their impact on the bottom line. I only have a job right now because my employer couldn't afford to part with yet another employee with institutional knowledge about a key client. Any other time in my employer's history and I would have been history at the end of August 2005. I have been told as much and get treated in a way that suggests that I am being "paid back" for their gracious behaviour in not firing me.

Zukin, I think your wife has taken the best approach. The karmic benefits of what you are doing will outweigh any short term loss, and the benefits will manifest themselves in ways that you won't expect, and possibly will never even notice.

[boomer]

If someone decided to cancel leave, then the company wins! (unless they had arranged a casual staff member)
However cancelling leave in 1 month, must be better than losing a good staff member in a month??? After all everyone can be replaced, however it can take a while!!

Not always, theres lots of stuff to take into account.

Leave schedules/work rosta's..making sure you have the right number of people at the right times
Having someone with too much leave is actually quite an overhead, most companies can't carry.


still.. i feel you pain, best way forward is talking to your/her manager and discussing it openly.

Shit talk and lawyers etc is ugly for all involved and leaves a bad taste in ya mouth.. which remains ( for all concerned )

[James Deuce]

You don't want to work for a company like that anyway. If it wasn't this, it would've been something else down the line.

I would think long and hard before burning bridges though, NZ is a small place!

That works two ways. In a resource hungry market the employee controls the market, not the employer.

I've seen some utter turdsicles get recycled into the workforce. Including myself.

Zukin's wife is a touch more noble than most. She'll have no issue when the reason for the bridge burning is made public.