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  1. #46
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    Hey XJ, thanks for the welcome. Is it still g'day in NZ? You are what, about 40 hours ahead of Calif time?

    The "rolling rule" is working out great so far, it's a new rule for '04. Last year there was one race where only one bike showed up for Super Dino (he won, what a shock), so at least we fixed that problem. I think we may get 8-10 at the next race if everybody who registered actually shows up to race.

    The trouble with these old geezerbikes is they tend to break down a lot! At the first race back in March we lost two Kawis before the race even started, an old '74 KZ1000 (with GSXR front end and massive braced swingarm), and a '72 H2R triple (750cc two stroke factory racer....weighs 280 lbs and has 110 hp at the back wheel) both had bike problems and didn't make the race start. A couple months ago the GS1100 I mentioned couldn't bump start his bike after a red flag (total loss ignition with high compression, he uses a portable starter to fire it up before riding) so he was out. In that same race the cowling bracket broke on the '85 GSXR750 while he had a big lead. His bodywork starting coming off so he was black flagged, he came in for a quick patch-up with duct tape and finished 3rd. The phrase "that's racing" often comes into play, who knows what will happen at the track?

    Our club has specific 400 classes too, 450 Production and 450 Superbike, so the FZR400s have plenty of places to play. We also have a very popular new class for '04 called Formula IV...it pits all kinds of wild bikes against each other: 650 Twins, 450 four-cylinders, Unlimited Singles, and 250cc two-stroke streetbikes. Since it's a Formula class, about the only rule is that it has two wheels and a throttle. Anything goes! There are usually 60-70 bikes on the grid for that class! It's a hit too, I think so far we've had a 650 winner, 450 winner, and Single winner. I don't think a 250 has won yet but the fast 250 guys are definitely running near the front.

    Each one of those modified bikes has their own class to run too (250 Superbike, 650 Twins, Formula Singles, and 450 Superbike).

    Not everybody can afford to run out and drop $10,000 USD on a new GSXR1000, spend another couple thousand prepping it for the track, then go out and race it, so it's great fun to have all these classes for the sub-200 horsepower bikes.

    The VFR400/RVF400 racers are expecially impressive, there's a group of them who have been importing these Hondas (which were never sold in the U.S.) for racing, the last couple of seasons they have been doing extensive R&D trying to wring as much power as possible. Some of those guys are FAST, way faster than me and my '87 750. But they have bored'em up to 450cc, with ported heads, flatslide carbs, titanium rods and such, they are making around 80 hp at the wheel! My 750 probably has only a few more hp than that (I'm guessing 90 hp since I have stock CV carbs, stock cams and no headwork), and no way will an ancient 750 like mine handle as well as those nimble 400s.

    We have some weird rules in my racing club though. Our "Production" classes require use of the stock exhaust can. But ported heads, aftermarket cams, high-compression pistons and 1mm overbores are legal! This really freaks out racers from other clubs who pop in to race with us from time to time, our rulebook is very different than most U.S. club racing orgs. Why, I have no idea. There's a push to possibly allow aftermarket exhausts in Production for '05, we'll see how that goes. In the meantime there will be lots of racers spending $3k-$4k to have their engine hot-rodded, then sticking it back in the bike with a stock exhaust can. Absolutely crazy.

    Do you guys have any web pages showing your racing exploits?

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    Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dino
    Hey XJ, thanks for the welcome. Is it still g'day in NZ? You are what, about 40 hours ahead of Calif time?


    Hi Dino. In fact when you fly into New Zealand the pilot tells ya to turn your watch back 10 years......

    We are a simple rustic people, eking a meagre living from the land, fond our our livestock and whiling away our days whittling and weaving......
    Kerry

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    No worries Kerry, I saw the Peter Jackson trilogy so I understand. You should hire those Orcs as pub bouncers. What's that old joke from Wales? "Honest officer, I was only helping the sheep through the fence."

    But then I know about fast racers like Aaron Slight and Simon Crafar, whom I coincidentally have met both. I met Crafar at Suzuka in 1999 at the 8-Hour, he was walking up the paved path near the Suzuka restaurant carrying a box. Man, that guy walks faster than most people jog.

    I met Slight at Sugo in '97, he had a mohawk haircut, haha. Sharing a paddock with Kocinski can cause you to do crazy things I guess, John has a "difficult teammate" reputation.

    Didn't Flyin' Fred Merkel retire to NZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dino
    No worries Kerry, I saw the Peter Jackson trilogy so I understand. You should hire those Orcs as pub bouncers. What's that old joke from Wales? "Honest officer, I was only helping the sheep through the fence."

    But then I know about fast racers like Aaron Slight and Simon Crafar, whom I coincidentally have met both. I met Crafar at Suzuka in 1999 at the 8-Hour, he was walking up the paved path near the Suzuka restaurant carrying a box. Man, that guy walks faster than most people jog.

    I met Slight at Sugo in '97, he had a mohawk haircut, haha. Sharing a paddock with Kocinski can cause you to do crazy things I guess, John has a "difficult teammate" reputation.

    Didn't Flyin' Fred Merkel retire to NZ?
    Yup Flying Fred Merkel is here, i did a track day with him teaching us, as well as another one of nz top racers. It was orginzed by the local uylsses(old farts) club, but was good day

    He does some sorta welding metal work or something like that business, make brake disc or somethinhg

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    Update.

    Well. recently, I've done sweet FA to the bike, instead focussing my attentions on sabotaging the oppossitions machine.

    Frosty's bike is coming along quite nicely, thankyou.

    But......today I get the phone call from the lovely Annie at AMPS and da-da-ta-daahhhh!

    MY PIPE HAS ARRIVED!


    Garaunteed to give me an extra 50hp and 100kph top speed. See the friendly folks at AMPS (if you're in Auckland) for all your Vance and Hines requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMCC
    Well. recently, I've done sweet FA to the bike, instead focussing my attentions on sabotaging the oppossitions machine.

    Frosty's bike is coming along quite nicely, thankyou.

    But......today I get the phone call from the lovely Annie at AMPS and da-da-ta-daahhhh!

    MY PIPE HAS ARRIVED!


    Garaunteed to give me an extra 50hp and 100kph top speed. See the friendly folks at AMPS (if you're in Auckland) for all your Vance and Hines requirements.
    nice vance and hines

    loved the one on my old gsxr1100

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMCC
    Garaunteed to give me an extra 50hp and 100kph top speed. .
    Yeah right
    Kerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerryg
    Yeah right
    Nah straight up 50hp. Sez so right..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash
    Guaraunteed to give me an extra 50hp and 100kph top speed.
    Quote Originally Posted by White trash
    Nah straight up 50hp. Sez so right..........
    100kph top speed, and you need an extra 50hp to get there?

    Maybe theres hope for Frosty yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddieb
    100kph top speed, and you need an extra 50hp to get there?

    Maybe theres hope for Frosty yet
    Maybe WT's talking about an EXTRA 100km/hr top speed, up from 180km/hr, to 280km/hr?

    Actually, today I checked out a bit of a nice potential pre'89er.

    Gixxerfan's 1987 GSXR1100 slabside. RF900 front end, 1992 17 inch GSXR1100 rear, Ohlins shocks, custom machined tripleclamps.

    Your bike might still be a bit underpowered methinks WT.

    Lucky you can outride them all in the corners...
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    When is the cut off for pre 89??? my bike is registered as 88 but according to 440greybikes.com, she's 89 ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakamin
    When is the cut off for pre 89??? my bike is registered as 88 but according to 440greybikes.com, she's 89 ?????
    Well Frosty's going to be running a 1989 ZXR750, so that should give you a rough idea....
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

    - James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.

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    Pre 89 cut off

    Quote Originally Posted by Blakamin
    When is the cut off for pre 89??? my bike is registered as 88 but according to 440greybikes.com, she's 89 ?????
    The rules state (and I quote) " ...manufactured after the closing date of the period 1982 class and before December 31st 1989". When your bike was first registered isn't relevant (I've got an 89 build year FZR600 first registered in 1991)

    Build date is usually on the factory VIN label thingamabob....
    Kerry

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    Talking Yahoo!

    The pipe that's worth more than the bike has arrived. Fuck it's flash.

    Obnoxiously loud and shiny. Big ups to Annie at AMPS for getting it here so quick. Ta muchly.

    I'll post pics when I get it fitted
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash
    The pipe that's worth more than the bike has arrived. Fuck it's flash.

    I'll post pics when I get it fitted
    Cant wait for the pics...
    its not the bike you were riding Sat & Sun was it?

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