My rant to Telecom (xtra)

[imdying]

So in essence, what Telecom did by introducing full speed DSL, was to overload the lines for everyone, and make the switch to another ISP seem pointless because of the log jammed lines, thus making the LLU less painful on their pockets?.

Yep, they knew that would happen. Their technical guys told us that would happen. The people who lobbied for it, pushing for the change, knew it would happen. This ain't all Telecoms fault. But what's their motivation to invest into the infrastructure now? I'd be telling NZ to go fuck themselves if I were Telecom, and I'd be screwing them for $$$$ harder and faster than ever before. I admit that it's fun to vilify Telecom, but there's plenty of blame to spread around for our current situation.

[Wasp]

completly agree with you there imdying

basically its like sharing a 56k connection between 10 computers..... it just doesnt work

the interesting thing is some areas are fast and others not so; i.e. my workmate lives in a flat in the middle of town and actually gets "full speed" (well way more than me anyway) but i live in a suburb neighbourhood with old people and people who arn't interested in things like adsl yet mine goes slower... you'd think that his exchange would be more clogged than mine.... though i suppose the exchanges are different specs

[kro]

I am still battling it out, but here's the latest.

Dear Dale

We are going to put you on the Pro-Advanced Plan for the next month, free of charge, to see if your line speeds improve.
Please note any times/days that problems may accor to help our techies...blah blah blah.

The pro advanced plan is raping the go large plan by about 3 galaxies this far.

This plan has a 30gb cap, which is fine by me, and I am getting superior speed from it, but by my reckoning, it is matching my old 3.5 in download speed, but the pro-adv' is tonnes quicker on the upload...... some users getting 70-80kbps off me.

We shall see what pans out. Sorry to dredge an old thread, just thought I'd follow this through.

[DemonWolf]

hmmm interesting indeed. Keep us updated... er.. as you were =)

[Fub@r]

I am still battling it out, but here's the latest.

Dear Dale

We are going to put you on the Pro-Advanced Plan for the next month, free of charge, to see if your line speeds improve.
Please note any times/days that problems may accor to help our techies...blah blah blah.

The pro advanced plan is raping the go large plan by about 3 galaxies this far.

This plan has a 30gb cap, which is fine by me, and I am getting superior speed from it, but by my reckoning, it is matching my old 3.5 in download speed, but the pro-adv' is tonnes quicker on the upload...... some users getting 70-80kbps off me.

We shall see what pans out. Sorry to dredge an old thread, just thought I'd follow this through.

They did this for me, after that month was up I switched to Orcon as it was cheaper, with a flatrate plan and no excess usage charges

$69 mth max/max flatrate (zeroshock) plan. Small print states 15gig a month ok don't push too hard above it. Mate at Orcon had to have a chat to one guy on this plan who halfway through the month had already downloaded 120gig!!!

Also just heard through a mate of mine that anyone that was on Go Large plan between the 8th Dec and February will be getting a credit on their accounts as Xtra can't do the shaping properly. The contract states that traffic will be shaped between 4pm and midnight each day but between this period Telecom had 24 hr shaping in place.

Apparently all Go Large plans will now have 24hr shaping

EDIT:

Currently with around 60,000 customers on the Go Large service, the refunds are expected to total $7.5 - $8.5m (incl GST).

Credits will vary depending on how long a customer has been on Go Large. For a customer who has been using the plan since 8 December and is still on the plan the credit is expected to be between $130 - $160.

[riffer]

Fuck you had me worried.

This info has been confidential until 2 hours ago. I've been working on it all week and I've only found out 5 minutes ago that the media release came out at 10.00

Yes, its true. Go Large customers will receive a letter in the post. Full refund of three months internet if you agree to new terms.

[Bend-it]

Hang on, what new terms??

[Fub@r]

Hang on, what new terms??

That Telecom will replace "shaping between 4pm and midnight" with "24/7 traffic shaping"

[Bend-it]

hmmm, and what shape will it be then? 'coz this "shaping" thing could easily be, "We will shape you all down to 56kbps! Muahahaha!!"

Feel free to replace "sh" with "r"

[avgas]

hmmm, and what shape will it be then? 'coz this "shaping" thing could easily be, "We will shape you all down to 56kbps! Muahahaha!!"

Feel free to replace "sh" with "r"

Thats when you put a high freq squeeler on the line and fuck up the 'patchboard'. But you didnt hear that from me.

[Quartermile]

Do we have to agree to these new crap terms as we just got broadband any I am NOT loosing my unlimited downloads as this is part of the reason we got it!!!

[Karma]

Do we have to agree to these new crap terms as we just got broadband any I am NOT loosing my unlimited downloads as this is part of the reason we got it!!!

No you don't have to agree to the terms, you can change to another plan.

If the govt changes the speed limit you can either take it or move somewhere else unfortunately.

NB. This is not a statement that what is being done is right, or ethical.

[jrandom]

Thats when you put a high freq squeeler on the line...

... shortly followed by a harried Telescum engineer figuring out who fucked the exchange and cursing you up, down and sideways for making his life difficult?

Like it or not, Telecom customers do have to agree not to connect unauthorised equipment to the network. Tut, tut.

In any case, I would have expected that each copper pair would have appropriate filtering and fusing at the exchange end, so that any high-power or high-frequency naughtiness would affect only your own connection.

Although one could be forgiven for feeling the urge to experiment.

[avgas]

... shortly followed by a harried Telescum engineer figuring out who fucked the exchange and cursing you up, down and sideways for making his life difficult?

Like it or not, Telecom customers do have to agree not to connect unauthorised equipment to the network. Tut, tut.

In any case, I would have expected that each copper pair would have appropriate filtering and fusing at the exchange end, so that any high-power or high-frequency naughtiness would affect only your own connection.

Although one could be forgiven for feeling the urge to experiment.

Yes and yes on the filters - but at the end of the day capacitors dont last for ever, nor do MOV's and reg's........right now i have a SMPS on our 19in rack that looks like it will kill anything. Allready killed 2 meters, a gps clock and few other devices....all industrial hardened equipment
At the end of the day its not going to piss of that fucken bitch at the top - so whats the point.
On another note - anyone seen the new plans (we have to sign up to 1 of these i imagine). Im fucken pissed - i was better off 2 years ago with slingshot.
http://jetstream.xtra.co.nz/chm/0,87...,00.html?nv=sd

[Sam I Am]

Fuck you had me worried.

Yes, its true. Go Large customers will receive a letter in the post. Full refund of three months internet if you agree to new terms.

Serously Pissed @ Xtra now! So Go Large didnt work but it totally killed my conection speeds on my exchange, But i was never on GO(get fucked)Large plan so i dont get a refund!