Muslims have more right to Australia than convicts...

[LilSel]

Fuck it...........give em Australia..........they will ban ball sports and we might actually be able to win something....................

LOL!!!! Im going over there on Thurs with my balls n I plan to win ...
Lemme do that first... then you can gift it to the muslims

[WarlockNZ]

not quite on topic ... but you get the idea.



and as for my 2 cents .. a drivers licence is indeed a form of identification, "PHOTO IDENTIFICATION!" .. if you can't see a persons face how are you to know that they are in fact the holder of the license in question... do you think for a second that a Muslim would be allowed to have her face covered in a passport photo?? .. of course not .. that would be stupid.

This entire debate hinges around the fact that a lot (not all) muslims in both NZ and Australia feel that they should be exempt from the laws of the country, simply because it conflicts with their religion.

They knew that was the case before they chose to immigrate, but once they arrive they think that they can use religion to flout the law.

If I rode without a helmet (as stupid as that is) and was ticketed for it, do you think i could use religion to get off?? .. hell no!

This is no different. people are made aware of the laws and customs and standards of a country before they move there, you cannot, once you arrive, start claiming that your culture is above the laws of the land, or that the laws (religious or otherwise) from the country you left for a better life are more important and should be obeyed to the detriment of the society that you are now a part of... that's just stupid! ... unless you can become a part of your new homeland go back to where you came from or harden the fuck up!!

[Lou Girardin]

Fuck it...........give em Australia..........they will ban ball sports and we might actually be able to win something....................

Even with having to wear Burquas and having to pray towards Mecca 5 times a day, their cricket team will STILL dick ours.

[mstriumph]

erm all very interesting, but ---- to get back to Sheik Alhilali ----

since his ill-considered comments were published there have been prominent Australian Muslims on the box actually apologising for the offence he's continuing to cause and trying to at least partially counter the damage he has done ............. and many of his erstwhile supporters are distancing themselves from him

can't be all bad, no?

notwithstanding all that, if i met the jerk-off i'd probably grab his hand and shake it ['cause he'd probably have to cautorize it to cleanse it, me being an unclean woman and white[ish] to boot] before festooning him with pig-entrails ....................... but then, i can't TOLERATE intolerance

[mstriumph]

and yes, Lou, watever happens, your cricket team WILL be dicked!! lol

[Skyryder]

erm all very interesting, but ---- to get back to Sheik Alhilali ----

since his ill-considered comments were published there have been prominent Australian Muslims on the box actually apologising for the offence he's continuing to cause and trying to at least partially counter the damage he has done ............. and many of his erstwhile supporters are distancing themselves from him

can't be all bad, no?

notwithstanding all that, if i met the jerk-off i'd probably grab his hand and shake it ['cause he'd probably have to cautorize it to cleanse it, me being an unclean woman and white[ish] to boot] before festooning him with pig-entrails ....................... but then, i can't TOLERATE intolerance

I saw one of the apologies. Don't recall the name of the guy but what struck me was the excuses that were being made at the same time.

Skyyrder

[SixPackBack]

I saw one of the apologies. Don't recall the name of the guy but what struck me was the excuses that were being made at the same time.

Skyyrder

Thats a bit rough! first the Muslims get branded broadly as suicide bombers and when the masses apologise and distance themselves they still get shit.

Make an effort to meet some Muslims Skyryder, they is pretty dam cool.

[Grahameeboy]

not quite on topic ... but you get the idea.



and as for my 2 cents .. a drivers licence is indeed a form of identification, "PHOTO IDENTIFICATION!" .. if you can't see a persons face how are you to know that they are in fact the holder of the license in question... do you think for a second that a Muslim would be allowed to have her face covered in a passport photo?? .. of course not .. that would be stupid.

This entire debate hinges around the fact that a lot (not all) muslims in both NZ and Australia feel that they should be exempt from the laws of the country, simply because it conflicts with their religion.

They knew that was the case before they chose to immigrate, but once they arrive they think that they can use religion to flout the law.

If I rode without a helmet (as stupid as that is) and was ticketed for it, do you think i could use religion to get off?? .. hell no!

This is no different. people are made aware of the laws and customs and standards of a country before they move there, you cannot, once you arrive, start claiming that your culture is above the laws of the land, or that the laws (religious or otherwise) from the country you left for a better life are more important and should be obeyed to the detriment of the society that you are now a part of... that's just stupid! ... unless you can become a part of your new homeland go back to where you came from or harden the fuck up!!

I do agree and I was just looking at ways around the issue but at the same time, Govt's know what certain religions are like so they are niave if they think by allowing them in etc there will not be issues...

A signature is a form of identification.

[iwilde]

not quite on topic ... but you get the idea.



and as for my 2 cents .. a drivers licence is indeed a form of identification, "PHOTO IDENTIFICATION!" .. if you can't see a persons face how are you to know that they are in fact the holder of the license in question... do you think for a second that a Muslim would be allowed to have her face covered in a passport photo?? .. of course not .. that would be stupid.

This entire debate hinges around the fact that a lot (not all) muslims in both NZ and Australia feel that they should be exempt from the laws of the country, simply because it conflicts with their religion.

They knew that was the case before they chose to immigrate, but once they arrive they think that they can use religion to flout the law.

If I rode without a helmet (as stupid as that is) and was ticketed for it, do you think i could use religion to get off?? .. hell no!

This is no different. people are made aware of the laws and customs and standards of a country before they move there, you cannot, once you arrive, start claiming that your culture is above the laws of the land, or that the laws (religious or otherwise) from the country you left for a better life are more important and should be obeyed to the detriment of the society that you are now a part of... that's just stupid! ... unless you can become a part of your new homeland go back to where you came from or harden the fuck up!!

Once again, confusing religious with a cultural issue. My personal view is that they should be bare headed, or at the most just the scarf covering the hair in any official photo. If you have any further confusion about which is cultural and which is religious, you can always ask.

[Fat Tony]

There are moves underway here to start letting bikers go in to banks wearing full face helmets now - all in the name of equality

[Grahameeboy]

There are moves underway here to start letting bikers go in to banks wearing full face helmets now - all in the name of equality

Excellent..how many bank robbers use helmets anyway?
I often pop into New World wearing my helmet cause it is easier if I need a basket and it is always quiet!!!!

[SixPackBack]

There are moves underway here to start letting bikers go in to banks wearing full face helmets now - all in the name of equality

Perhaps we should micro-chip all Muslim women.

Worry about the shit that matters, not if some random lady wears a scarf.

[Lou Girardin]

and yes, Lou, watever happens, your cricket team WILL be dicked!! lol

Not mine, when it comes to cricket, I'm Italian.

[SixPackBack]

Not mine, when it comes to cricket, I'm Italian.

Should help with Motogp then Lou

[Grahameeboy]

Perhaps we should micro-chip all Muslim women.

Worry about the shit that matters, not if some random lady wears a scarf.

Yep, have to agree......we worry about the stuff that does not in the whole scheme of things matter eh?

Sad that we let one Muslim woman who has an issue with having a full face photo eh.................funny thing is I seem to recall people having issues with photo licence in the first place............short memory syndrome?