Blue Smoke, lots of it

[Stinkwheeler]

Gidday, ummm where do I start?

I'm 15, going on 16 in about half a month. I've had my motorcycle license for 8 months. I'm still on a learner license mostly because I havn't been bothered to take the test.

I love riding two strokes. All of the bikes I have listed are two strokes. I've never ridden a four stroke. I suppose riding the smaller capacity ones is like driving a car (YAWN).

About the bikes I have listed. The Suzuki TV200 is a very rare single cylinder half faired stroker. Does anyone in this forum own one/know anyone who owns one? I've never seen another, possibly because of its price when it was new (something like $7,000). It's exempted at the moment so I can't ride it. It goes decent enough, although it's a bit of a pain to get running when its cold.

The two 125s aren't in action at the moment. The Suzuki is in bits. It's an ongoing project of my Dad's but it's being built up for me. And I have no idea where the Yamaha is.

The Suzuki T250 is a great bike to ride. It acts the exact opposite of a two stroke. It makes a rush of torque then its all over. Suprising Commodore drivers on it is great fun. And it does a pretty good impression of a Yamaha R6 at high rpm. It's my Dad's though, and he's using it at the moment.

Anyone who often goes to Turners in Wellington is bound to see me searching for the necessary evil (a car).

That's about it. I'm going to bed. Good night.

[riffer]

Hi Stinkwheeler and welcome to KB.

Lots of interesting stuff going on and sometimes people even talk about motorcycles

Never hear of your bike but checked it out on SuzukiCycles:

http://www.suzukicycles.org/Wolf-ser...lf-TV200.shtml

I must say 35hp and 118kg would probably make for a pretty damn good ride for a 15 year old!

I started out on two strokes like you. But most bikes are four strokes now, mainly I guess, for the obvious reason - emissions.

There's still a place in my heart for the 2smokers but 4 strokes are the way of the future - much better power spread and cleaner bike - but none of that "power band"

Anyway, hope you enjoy the site. Meet up with some of the guys and join in on some rides - you will find lots to read and learn some stuff.

[dangerous]

Hi there SW, Its good to see that you are so keen on bikes as we need more youngins comming up through the ranks.
Now that TV200 'Wolf' looks interesting never seen one of them before. Back in the 70's Suzuki brought out a 2 stroke called a 'Wolf' it was a twin though (cant remember the cc) and had high pipes on it one on each side a wicked looking bike it was I guess that your bike is a newer version, but with one cyl.

[merv]

I can remember some guy actually racing a Wolf at Wanganui in the early 90's and occasionally saw one on the Wgtn motorway then too, but not for years so I guess most of them have died by now.

[Motu]

Wolf and Stinger I think they were,90cc and 125cc,they were godawfull looking things and I never even knew anyone who rode one,they all died decades ago along with their riders.Two Strokes have given motorcycles a bad name,justified in my opinion,best move onto a mans bike ASAP.

[riffer]

Two Strokes have given motorcycles a bad name,justified in my opinion,best move onto a mans bike ASAP.

Had a ride on an RG500 gamma way back when they were first out.

Not really a bike I wouldn't have called a man's bike...

What about a kwaka triple ... now there's a girlie bike with the extra suspension in the frame tubes and all...

[Stinkwheeler]

Two Strokes have given motorcycles a bad name,justified in my opinion,best move onto a mans bike ASAP.

Blasphemy!! You couldn't be a "man" to say that. How the motorcycling world has turned their backs on such explosive rockets brings a tear to my eye. Bow down to your ancestors, petty fools.

As for me, yawn, just got up. Seems like there's interest in my TV200. Just imagine an RGV250 with no front fairing and a single cylinder motor and you're just about there. I've seen that Suzuki cycles page. The part about the frame is bollocks. It's steel, as my one is rusting quite happily.

And as for the part on the "other" Wolf. You wouldn't happen to mean the Suzuki T90 Wolf? It was a 90cc crosser, absolutely nothing like my one.

By the way (and I'm being serious), don't try to tell me anything about vintage japanese motorcycles. Chances are I'll already know it.

35hp and 115kg for a 15 year old is something I don't consider quite a lot, especially when it refuses to rev over 5,000rpm when its cold. I've got a solution to that, more clutch slip than a GP start and 9,000rpm. My Dad's 1972 Suzuki T250 has more go. Ok, it's modified slightly. I won't go into that story right here, best leave it for tweaking tuning and so on.

Two Strokes are the way to go if you're learning. You can't afford to be lazy, you have to concentrate on getting clutch slip and the gears just right. There's no room for error. Mess up a shift and you're pretty much moving backwards. I can imagine myself getting sloppy on a four stroke, regardless of their "torque" and "better power spread." I'd rather have a screaming top end and respectable citizens staring at me.

And I'm classified as an "L-Plate Rider"? I am offended. I'm getting close to restricted anyway. And you'll have to get used to my elongated posts.

[Deano]

Two Strokes have given motorcycles a bad name,justified in my opinion,best move onto a mans bike ASAP.

What a load of bollocks.

[jrandom]

By the way (and I'm being serious), don't try to tell me anything about vintage japanese motorcycles. Chances are I'll already know it.

You sound like a very fulfilled young man.

115kg for a 15 year old is something I don't consider quite a lot

Better the bike than you, anyway.

And I'm classified as an "L-Plate Rider"? I am offended. I'm getting close to restricted anyway. And you'll have to get used to my elongated posts.

Your classification goes up with your post count. Start whoring the forums if being an 'L-Plate Rider' bothers you.

[curious george]

Heehee. first ride was on the back of a wolf. Good fun, but I had heard they had a reputation for destroying little ends?
Not quite in the same league as a RGV I wouldn't think.
Why do you need a car? What can't you fit on a bike?

[Kickaha]

.Two Strokes have given motorcycles a bad name,justified in my opinion,best move onto a mans bike ASAP.

Two strokes gave motorcyles a bad name? how do you work that out?
sounds like the demented ravings of a madman to me

[Motu]

Johnson Iron Horse,British Seagull,BSA Bantam - never before have so few angered so many.

[Posh Tourer :P]

By the way (and I'm being serious), don't try to tell me anything about vintage japanese motorcycles. Chances are I'll already know it.

Right then. Mental note to shut up.

35hp and 115kg for a 15 year old is something I don't consider quite a lot, especially when it refuses to rev over 5,000rpm when its cold. I've got a solution to that, more clutch slip than a GP start and 9,000rpm. My Dad's 1972 Suzuki T250 has more go. Ok, it's modified slightly. I won't go into that story right here, best leave it for tweaking tuning and so on.

Yes ok so you have a fast bike. Now go for a ride with a few of the guys on here, like TwoSmoker and Motoracer....

Two Strokes are the way to go if you're learning. You can't afford to be lazy, you have to concentrate on getting clutch slip and the gears just right. There's no room for error. Mess up a shift and you're pretty much moving backwards. I can imagine myself getting sloppy on a four stroke, regardless of their "torque" and "better power spread." I'd rather have a screaming top end and respectable citizens staring at me.

So if everyone was as good as you, that would hold. However, not everyone has the ability to master a bike straight off... Having something that doesnt step out on you when you hit the powerband going round a corner could save a life or two, and encourage a further generation of motorcyclists... However, if you want to be a showoff, a 2-stroke is probably better.
Of course my opinions dont count because I'm a boring old fart of a 20year old who rides a BMW.....

And I'm classified as an "L-Plate Rider"? I am offended. I'm getting close to restricted anyway. And you'll have to get used to my elongated posts.

Go here for an explanation...FWIW I dont care wherther you have a learners or a restricted or a dangerous goods endorsement... Get over yourself. I suppose you'll be telling us next that Harleys and scooters arent acceptable choices for getting on two wheels :P

[jrandom]

Yes. Like wot PT said. Stinky... (I think that's what we're going to have to call you now) it's the Done Thing on this forum to insist, even beyond all reasonable limits of humility, even as you, riding a beat-up GS500, overtake someone on an R1 around the outside of a corner, that you are a Slow Rider.

Now, considering that you probably *are* a slow rider, you basically need to start taking the approach that, while you know you could get from A to B faster by walking, you're going to keep plugging away at your riding skills for the next few years, until you can keep in sight of, say, Trashy, all the way to the carpark exit at the start of a Welly-boys KB ride.

Then you may consider that the Gods of Motorcycling have smiled upon you, and die happy.

[Kickaha]

I'm a boring old fart of a 20year old who rides a BMW.....



P

Unfair stereotype
Well if you find some 1000cc barrells and heads for your R65 you could turn it into a 853cc short stoke powerhouse and get rid of the boring tag