Manfeild free day = poo > sewer

[Sparky Bills]

That is pretty disappointing really. What do they expect the pace to be in a group called the 'Slow' group!

Thats exactly my point.
However was great to see so many first timers out there too!
Track riding is getting very popular in this country. Im stoked to see it!

[Sparky Bills]

yer they were ALL going to slow for me... i realy should have moved up a couple of groups....
but then all i would have heard in the pits is the bitchin about how some tosser on a 125 cut you up on the sweeper

Steady on mate!
Thats so long as you had someone to push that poor thing to start it aye

[Fatjim]

you're the cu^t who put tomato sauce all over my bike!!!

Hey it's stretching a bit to call that muck tomato sauce.

[Trudes]

Ok, I was the slowest of the slow group, and I plainly heard that in the slow/novice group, there was to be no 'carving people up on the inside'. I took this as I should be able to ride on the track at my own pace without someone overtaking me on the inside and should hence be able to pick my own lines and cut down as close to the inside as I like without endangering myself or cutting anyone off as they try to pass me, they should be on the outside of me.
How wrong I was.
It didn't really worry me, just made me aware that at any point someone may try to squeeze past me on the inside and for the whole day I changed my lines so if someone was doing that they may have room to do so.
If anyone had a problem with how slow I was going, they should have told me to my face that I needed to go faster, too bad that I may have then crashed or put someone else in danger by going faster. I paid my money and don't recall being told that I had to go at a certain speed. I also recall it being said that it was not a race day or a speed test, but a day to practice stuff that I do on the road, which is how I rode, and it's been a while now that I've had a car up my arse wishing I would hurry up.
I'm happy with how I rode on the track, I rode safely, I'm sorry if you got stuck behind me, (somehow it matters too that I ride a 900 and was getting passed by people on smaller bikes, I don't give a flying fuck how big my bike is or how big your bike isn't, it doesn't mean I have to ride it any faster!) a good rider should have been able to get around me piece of piss as I didn't hurtle down the straights so fast that people couldn't pass me there either. If you're that good of a rider that the slow group was too slow for you, then harden up and fuck off to a faster group, there wasn't a slower group for me to go to.
Rant over and out. Cheers.

[White trash]

I'm understanding all this, but when I first started doing trackdays, there were no "passing" rules. Slow/Fast whatever. If you were passing, you had to do it safely.

Then, somone said "No passing on the inside for the slow group", Ohhhh-kaaaay, I can see the logic but NOW, at the GSXR only day (which by the way was the most stunning trackday I've ever attended), we are told.

"NO PASSING ON THE INSIDE" Full Stop.

What?

[Karma]

"NO PASSING ON THE INSIDE" Full Stop.

What?

If you're man enough to move outta the slow group, then you're man enough to handle someone passing on the inside.

[limbimtimwim]

Then, somone said "No passing on the inside for the slow group", Ohhhh-kaaaay, I can see the logic but NOW, at the GSXR only day (which by the way was the most stunning trackday I've ever attended), we are told."NO PASSING ON THE INSIDE" Full Stop. What?

Really?!? That's no fun. Did anyone actually obey that in the fast group(s)? One of the best moments from saturday for me was being passed masterfully on the inside into turn 1 by the guy on the identical gsxr as mine. That looked bloody awesome from my point of view, his knee skimming the ground. I would have clapped but I was too busy going around the same corner and trying to catch him.

[Str8 Jacket]

Some of them are even girls!

At least us "girls" remember to have a full tank of gas before they get on the track....

[Flyno]

if people are going to cut you up in slow group they should have a taste of race pace, they will shit bricks with us guys taking any gap to pass, those wankers that are in a class that go and cause havovk can go. no need for them!

[phantom]

Ok, I was the slowest of the slow group,

I am sure I was slower and am sure some of the quicker slow ones would have preferred I wasn't there but I was concentrating on travelling at a pace that myself and my bike of advanced years with shit brakes , tyres and suspension could cope with. I paid my money and had my fun. Didn't feel particularly intimidated by the quicker riders but in a previous life raced in a completely different discipline and new that if you wanted to pass someone it was up to the person doing the passing that had to change their line as long as the person being passed didn't deliberately block you.

Loved the old BSA race bike, that had class

[R6_kid:Me]

"NO PASSING ON THE INSIDE" Full Stop.

What?

would seem that the motards at the trackdays i've been to dont know that rule, so you just scare the fuck out of them and go inside them knee down... shows them who the crazy fucker is.

my street fightered (almost) 600

looks like its just been crashed to me

[boomer]

If you're man enough to move outta the slow group, then you're man enough to handle someone passing on the inside.

and you'd know this how??

I know the rules have changed from a few years ago, BUT if the rules state no passing in slow/medium on the inside then surely people should respect this?

I nearly hit arpu at taupo for doing it to me on the hairpin.. but the fact that he out braked himself and ran off the track was enough happy joy joy for him to appreciate his nose the way it is for a 'bit' longer

[Trudes]

As I said, I don't have a problem with being overtaken on the inside, just surprised at people doing so after we had been told that it was not to be done in the slow group, surprised me how many people have hearing problems.
Was also surprised how well some people can scan the track while going at fast pace on the 'check the track' session. It was a great introduction to my first time on the track, to be lapped on my second lap, I think the speed of that would have put a lot of other less experienced riders off as a first time ever on the track, I was just lucky that I was told that the slow group wouldn't be anywhere near as fast as that!!
Please don't get me wrong, I had a ball and I would hate for these 'fun days' to become all Nazified and unfun, or worse still, too much of a bloody hassle for the organisers, as they do an awesome job, but if you are going to have rules, then maybe people need to try to abide by them so as not to ruin other people's fun or put someone else in danger for the sake of their own ego.
Sorry ranting again, I'm just feeling very passionate? after my first day back at work.

[White trash]

OK, for arguments sake, let's chuck the jandal on the other foot.

You're in a trackday group (it doesn't matter the pace) and you're catching somone going slower than you (but not by much). Do you A: Pass them where you believe to be a safe spot so you can get on with doing your thing or B: Follow them around at their pace in a procession?

I aggree, homos that burgle the slower groups so they can "prove" something need to be spoken to and shifted or asked to leave, but even within a slower paced group, there's going to be a difference in speed. Someone's going to get passed.

[boomer]

OK, for arguments sake, let's chuck the jandal on the other foot.

You're in a trackday group (it doesn't matter the pace) and you're catching somone going slower than you (but not by much). Do you A: Pass them where you believe to be a safe spot so you can get on with doing your thing or B: Follow them around at their pace in a procession?

I aggree, homos that burgle the slower groups so they can "prove" something need to be spoken to and shifted or asked to leave, but even within a slower paced group, there's going to be a difference in speed. Someone's going to get passed.

i'll bling you for the burgle comment


i'll argue the point tho.. cos i can
a) should be the answer, cos it makes that person 'learn' the art of overtaking on a track. They learn to carry more speed through a corner or more drive out of a corner. all whilst observing strengths & weakness's OR pull in and let the fucker get half way round teh track then start again(this would piss me off though)

I'd be spewing in teh medium group if some fucker lowsided into me after being told not to undertake, i'd torch teh remains of his trike and then piss on it.