Kapiti: SH1 crash (16 January)

**jumma** · 16th January 2007, 15:54

NZ Police CommCens Alert 16:45 16-01-2007 Wellington

Location of incident: SH 1 Pekapeka

Incident Type: Crash, Car and Truck

SH 1 at Pekapeka will be closed for the next 20 mins to allow helicopter to land. Both lanes will be affected. No diversions unfortunately

And another one in Mana:

SH 1 at Mana Esplanade is moving as vehicles are off to the side of the road but there are at least 15 min delays for north bound traffic.

Police are currently dealing with a car that has crashed through the main door of BP Roadmaster. No roads cloased but heavy buildup of pedestrian traffic.

**davereid** · 16th January 2007, 16:24

Its about time the entire board of Transit were given their marching orders. The ads say "speeders, they are killing us". Actually, its Transit. Overpaid idiots, mismanaging our roading network.

Instead of watching as Transit introduce electronic tolls, electronic number plates, lower speed limits, cheesecutter barriers, we should be getting rid of them, and getting a roading authority that actually wants to build fast, safe roads.

You know, like the ones they built in Europe in the 30's.

p.s. hope no one seriously hurt in either accident

**Shadows** · 17th January 2007, 00:34

The one at Peka Peka must have been nasty, the cops were still there marking stuff on the road and putting numbered boards everywhere at about quarter to 7.

**James Deuce** · 17th January 2007, 05:07

Originally Posted by davereid

Its about time the entire board of Transit were given their marching orders. The ads say "speeders, they are killing us". Actually, its Transit. Overpaid idiots, mismanaging our roading network.

Instead of watching as Transit introduce electronic tolls, electronic number plates, lower speed limits, cheesecutter barriers, we should be getting rid of them, and getting a roading authority that actually wants to build fast, safe roads.

You know, like the ones they built in Europe in the 30's.

p.s. hope no one seriously hurt in either accident

We can't afford to build roads like they built in Europe in the '30s. You need to divert 20% of your workforce of 20 million into building them and thanks to shutting down MoW and letting the Civil Engineering branch wither we don't have the planning and engineering expertise to build decent roads.

However the roads aren't the issue. You've been brainwashed as much as the people who believe speed kills. There's nothing wrong with NZ roads that can't be fixed by the dolt behind the steering wheel or handle bars.

The chap who died near Fisherman's Table last week crossed double yellow lines into oncoming traffic and his wife wants to jack up Greater Wellington Region rates by extending the "killer highway" barrier through there. Here's a plan for you: Stop driving on the wrong side of the road and blaming the road when you have an accident.

**What?** · 17th January 2007, 05:14

Egg-Bloody-Zactly, Jim.
It did not escape my notice that, according to the news media, all four of the car drivers who died last weekend were not to blame - it was the car at fault in each case. The sad bit is, there seems to be a growing tide of people that believe all that "killer road" and "car lost control" bullshit.

**Ascott** · 17th January 2007, 05:30

What Jim2 said!

**Paul in NZ** · 17th January 2007, 07:56

Originally Posted by Ascott

What Jim2 said!

What? Is this the same Jim2 of the slippery tar predictions?

:-o

Sorry Jim - couldn't help it, my keyboard went off when I was cleaning it....

Basically i agree with Jim. There are some god awful drivers on that road and instead of the drivers wife whinging about barriers she should be thinking about how to make good the damage her husband caused..... Harsh? Yes...

Having said that.... Transit needs a kick up the arse regarding the state highways. SHW1 has no business going through those little towns like Otaki etc. As much as the local retailers love it, its a bloody menace and while we can't build it overnight you could add 20km every year or so and while we are at it, whack in a bloody great trench under it for a new national grid feed.

**Freakshow** · 17th January 2007, 08:08

Originally Posted by Jim2

The chap who died near Fisherman's Table last week crossed double yellow lines into oncoming traffic and his wife wants to jack up Greater Wellington Region rates by extending the "killer highway" barrier through there. Here's a plan for you: Stop driving on the wrong side of the road and blaming the road when you have an accident.

I dont understnad this piece of road and why it kills! It has nothing to do with the state of the road just the dumb arses who use it!

I friend of mine had a great idea, instead of wasting money and time building cheese graters and barriers, they should build a wall so people stop checking out the great view and actually concentrate on protecting the right of the person in the other lane and their passengers!

**Hitcher** · 17th January 2007, 08:09

Transit should only be held accountable for roads they have built or modified.

Drivers and riders also have to take responsibility for their actions as well -- and staying on the correct side of the road is one such remedy available to them. I am fast tiring of tales about the "Highway of Death" north of Wellington and how a median barrier is the "solution".

I am a bit hot about recent new road builds by Transit -- notably the Kaitoke realignment -- which has seen off-camber corners, blind corners, poorly positioned side roads and all manner of latent death created. In these circumstances the road builders/authorities should be individually liable for any death or accident their creations engender. Another example of gross and willful neglect by road builders is the Wainuiomata hill road. I know that has been there for many years, but how a stretch of highway where every corner is extremely off-camber could have ever been approved is a mystery to me.

**elle-f** · 17th January 2007, 08:19

yep - if they put a tougher barrier there people are just going to bang into it and head into the cars behind them. they need hugeassed signs there going ON about concentrating on driving........unless they are already there of course and i guess, when thinking about it, those signs need to be very visual with not much writing for the driver to read because that in itself could be an issue

**LilSel** · 17th January 2007, 08:25

Originally Posted by Freakshow

I dont understnad this piece of road and why it kills! It has nothing to do with the state of the road just the dumb arses who use it!

I dont understand why either... I was in wellington 3 times last year... and went up n down there at least 4 or 6 times a day... I didnt get how it was regarded as one of the most 'dangerous' bits of road in the country?!?! (as the media put it)... there is more 'dangerous' highways around.... I was expecting really crazy road... but it wasnt and I was kinda like

whats so dangerous bout this?...

**Shadows** · 17th January 2007, 08:33

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I am a bit hot about recent new road builds by Transit -- notably the Kaitoke realignment -- which has seen off-camber corners, blind corners, poorly positioned side roads and all manner of latent death created.

The project manager was a woman, you know.

**Hitcher** · 17th January 2007, 08:38

Originally Posted by Shadmeister

The project manager was a woman, you know.

Probably endeavoured to do what most project managers do: that it was completed on time and within budget (Which it wasn't), rather than ensuring that it was fit for purpose.

**Skunk** · 17th January 2007, 09:24

Originally Posted by davereid

hope no one seriously hurt in either accident

Pekapeka was a fatal.

Originally Posted by LilSel

I dont understand why either... I was in wellington 3 times last year... and went up n down there at least 4 or 6 times a day... I didnt get how it was regarded as one of the most 'dangerous' bits of road in the country?!?! (as the media put it)... there is more 'dangerous' highways around.... I was expecting really crazy road... but it wasnt and I was kinda like whats so dangerous bout this?...

The people driving on it are dangerous... not the road.