Hardcore Biker
My Opinion.
The Police need to sort out some priorities. This is one reason why the police find it difficult to get respect from normal people in NZ. FFS. Shes just lost half her family, shes a wee bit upset about it, is it really necessary to put the boot in ?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/3931782a19715.html
FINE. This is the word women use to end an argument when they are right and you need to shut up.
parting of the sensory
But of course. It will teach her not to do it again.Originally Posted by PuppetMaster
Similar thing happened with my son a couple of years ago. He was driving to his grandparents' house, hadn't driven on the open road much, was startled my a hawk flying up from the side of the road, jerked the wheel to avoid it and crashed the car, which was written off. While waiting bloody ages for the towtruck, a cop happened to drive by, interviewed him, and gave him a ticket.
We wrote in, but the police proceeded with the case. Fortunately, when it went to court, the judge agreed that he had learned enough from the crash, which caused him a lot of distress, a week of poor sleep, and cost him the car, and discharged him without conviction (a very rare and unusual outcome).
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
\<\------look a bike
I gotta agree. Why should this woman be charged?
Punishment? Surely she has suffered enough. What does it say about the police if they believe she needs to suffer more?
Prevention? What's more likely to stop her accidentally crashing again - a driving charge or the memory of her three children dying in the car next to her with their blood all over the place?
Please note that any criticism of this will be seen as police bashingso let's just accept that our views are wrong.
Forum whore
Look at it from the other side...
her actions directly caused the deaths of 3 people and to date she has not given a reasonable account of what happened. What do you expect the Police to do? Walk away and say 'Oh it was probably an accident - don't worry about it.'
Not a lot different to the Kahui case. She won't say what happened, there is little physical evidence and she appears not to be taking responsibility for the deaths.
No problem for me....
The Loose Goose
I have to agree with Paul, it would set a dangerous precedent if she were not charged with careless driving causing death or similar. Yes, she has suffered in that she lost three members of her family, but would you have been so sympathetic if she had hit another vehicle and killed three members of someone else's family?
Saying she should not be charged sends a message to others that if you crash and kill someone, for whatever reason, as long as you didn't do it deliberately, you won't be penalised. Next we'll be saying that those who rob banks and then spend all the money shouldn't be charged because now they are poor so it would be cruel to punish them!
Yes, I am pedantic about spelling and grammar so get used to it!
Tornado Alley
Not Police bashing... Yet....I gotta agree. Why should this woman be charged?
Please note that any criticism of this will be seen as police bashing
But what Paul and Beemer say is actually spot on. Can't argue that...
Judge has discretion to impose whatever sentence, if any. Let the courts decide on all of the facts. I'm sure no one will be upset if she was convicted and discharged as she has suffered enough over the loss of her 3 kids.
Forum whore
Agreed... this is not a responsibility that I want weighting down a policemans shoulders. Whether she is guilty of a crime or not is not his job to decide... his (or her) obligation is only to decide if there's sufficient evidence to charge her with, and if so, to do so.
Sure, I don't expect them to follow that 100% indiscriminately in every circumstance, but I do expect them to follow it 100% when there's been a loss of life.
As a society we have nominated judges as the people who're obliged to determine guilt (or a jury), you can't blame the police for fulfilling their obligations.
I blame the Labour Government
fine or prison is too harsh but maybe loss of drivers license for 6 months to a year, I mean how the fuck do you crash on a straight road on a good day unless it is driver error and IF another car was coming the other directon it couldv'e been a whole lot worse.
From American dad :
American dads dad: Breaking into a safe is like making love to a woman
American dad: So you just pound on it for two minutes until your done?
Forum whore
The Police charge people in regard to laws they have broken and cases they have to answer.
Judges and juries determine guilt and consequences.
Would you prefer summary roadside executions for breaking the law, a la Judge Dredd?
It isn't optional for the Police to not lay charges when there is clearly a charge to answer.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
The Loose Goose
I think she should be charged, but I'd place money on her being given a period of licence disqualification and perhaps a fine or some community sentence. She has to live with this for the rest of her life, but the community has to feel that justice has been served. It would be no different if she had run off the road but NOT killed anyone, she should still be charged as she was responsible for the accident. If there had been an explanation, like a blown tyre, oil on the road, an animal running out in front of her (nothing has been put forward that I know of, I think she may have fallen asleep at the wheel by the sound of it), then no, she should not be charged.
Yes, I am pedantic about spelling and grammar so get used to it!
Tornado Alley
3 people are dead. You suggest "do nothing..." What is wrong with this picture? And no, this is not a puppet or squeaky rat bashing thread...
released early.. yahoo..
yes i too agree with Paul, life may be hard , but its not taken easly, nor should the police, and taking their time in this matter , is giving thought , her rushing things in relation to been charged, seems very short sighted to me,
.xjr...
.."What's with all the lights"..officer..
\<\------look a bike
Nice.
I see you're points, but I'm not sure I agree with the "charge every one" mentality. Unfortunately head is too sore to type a well reasoned argument, and I'm sure if I did I'd probably contradict myself anyway.
What I would suggest to the girl is that if the cops want an explanation she should say her sunglass case fell on the floor - it works for mayors......
Rest In Peace
"Rifle says she suffered flashbacks but could not remember the crash."
Actions speak louder than words or good intentions
He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up. - Paul Keating
Forum whore
Mayors that kill three people?
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks