The firearm thread

[Dai]

I'm interested in the same. I have a fetish for getting magpies at daybreak nothing better that starting the day with a magpie. My problem is they are getting more cunning, well more difficult with the .22 anyway , is the .17 a better choice over 100m up the top of trees with the wind higher and I don't need more noise so are they much quieter with a suppressor ? ( like I mean no more noisy than Hi vel .22) rural areas are being more populated by people who don't like the noise or smell of .45 hawken trying to hit a magpie at 60 m it's a lot more fun when you do hit one tho. Please only gun freaks reply I couldn't handle anymore red reps from the Green people. Ahh Nothin betta that the smell of blackpowder in the morning.

Oh yes I thoroughly ephasis with you.

Rather than the Hawken try a 12 guage solid slug. Accurate to 100 yards and boy does it f#@k possums so I hate to think what would be left after hitting a magpie.

The smeel of blackpowder anytime of the day. The roar the flame and the thunder. Welcome to the "Darkside". Soot Lords rule.

As has been said so often, "modern propellant is just a passing fad"

[doc]

Oh yes I thoroughly ephasis with you.

Rather than the Hawken try a 12 guage solid slug. Accurate to 100 yards and boy does it f#@k possums so I hate to think what would be left after hitting a magpie.

Do you tie a lot of trout flies do you ?

[scumdog]

Oh yes I thoroughly ephasis with you.

Rather than the Hawken try a 12 guage solid slug. Accurate to 100 yards and boy does it f#@k possums so I hate to think what would be left after hitting a magpie.

Ferkin near does your shoulder in as well if you're lying down when you fire

[Dai]

Do you tie a lot of trout flies do you ?

This is lost on me. If it is a reference to fishing then I have to admit that I dont. The only fishing I have ever done is with 1/2 a stick of gelignite and a net downstream.

[scumdog]

This is lost on me. If it is a reference to fishing then I have to admit that I dont. The only fishing I have ever done is with 1/2 a stick of gelignite and a net downstream.

Hmmm, my guess it's in reference to the mass of feathers left behind..... that could be used for flies...

[doc]

This is lost on me. If it is a reference to fishing then I have to admit that I dont. The only fishing I have ever done is with 1/2 a stick of gelignite and a net downstream.

As an honourable sportsman When I think someone is watching I find that statement abhorent and am presently *555 you as we speak.

[Dai]

Hmmm, my guess it's in reference to the mass of feathers left behind..... that could be used for flies...

Cheers for that. I'm getting older and thicker as time goes on.

BTW I picked up that little .22 semi hangun on Sunday. Full suppressor and 3 spare mags. As quiet as using a soft air pistol.

Very nice.

[scumdog]

Cheers for that. I'm getting older and thicker as time goes on.

BTW I picked up that little .22 semi hangun on Sunday. Full suppressor and 3 spare mags. As quiet as using a soft air pistol.

Very nice.

Ya jammy bugger, would love sommat like that, love using silenced weapons, so discrete!

[doc]

Ferkin near does your shoulder in as well if you're lying down when you fire

Yep thats why blackpowder is only used in the "other" positions than prone

[Dai]

Yep thats why blackpowder is only used in the "other" positions than prone

I use BP in the prone position when firing my long range Remington Rolling Block 45-70.

520 gn projectile over 65 gns of BP. Accurate to 1000 yards. Wish I was.

My CAS shotgun loads lately have been 70 gns of BP with 1oz #7 shot.

Like all firearms, it only kicks if you handle it wrong.

[Wolf]

They make quite a "crack" compared to a .22LR, I have no experiance with the suppressor but by all accounts they are quiet effective at removing a fair chunk of the initial "crack".

But would do fuck all in getting rid of the travel noise of a Mach-2 projectile. I used to fire sub-sonic rounds in the suppressed Brno but a sub-sonic round would defeat the purpose if you're using a .17 for it's accuracy over long distances.

I found on the .22 the suppressor certainly took the edge off the initial crack of even the standard ammo and it turned the softer report of the sub-sonic rounds into an almost apologetic "cough" - about the noise level of a CO2 air pistol.

A mate of mine reckonned that with a suppressed .22 and sub-sonic ammo he could snipe at rabbits coming down to drink and quite a few would fall before the others twigged that something was up - and then he could usually get a couple more before they fled. By comparison: one shot of a standard .22 bullet from an unsuppressed firearm and all he'd see was one dead rabbit.

[pritch]

Yep thats why blackpowder is only used in the "other" positions than prone

The big bores (8 and 4 bore I mean) were fired standing or kneeling. Most others were fired prone but lying somewhat sideways to the point of aim. That way the recoil tended to push your shoulder back rather than just punch through your collar bone. That position lasted through until the demise of the .303.

It was the advent of the .223/5.56 that permitted a prone position in line with the barrel. At that relatively "recoiless" point some bright spark finally fitted rubber pads to military rifles...

Ah well!

[scumdog]

It was the advent of the .223/5.56 that permitted a prone position in line with the barrel. At that relatively "recoiless" point some bright spark finally fitted rubber pads to military rifles...

Ah well!

You ever seen the recoil 'pad' on a No.5? (Jungle Carbine)

Worse than the standard brass 'plate imho, too narrow and not that soft.

[jrandom]

You ever seen the recoil 'pad' on a No.5? (Jungle Carbine)

Military rifles stopped being cool when you could no longer splinter bones with the butt if you ran out of ammo.

[0arbreaka]

Military rifles stopped being cool when you could no longer splinter bones with the butt if you ran out of ammo.

Military rifles still have bayonet lugs and todays military personel are still equipped with bayonets, in which can be used in this given situation.